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    I've been think about the muffler for my 17. We will be adding a new stainless 2" system after the engine is done. Still thinking about the extractors from Europe or the current manifold but it would need new engine pipes from Holland if I stay with the manifold. Currently there is the usual silencer at the back and the expansion box just behind the gearbox.

    Motor will have the dual DCOE's so they will sound nice.

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    What should I fit and where would I put it? Without being rude. Would look good at the back if it is stainless.
    I'd like a note but not to loud. A stainless sports one is what I'm thinking about, but what one is good for these engines?
    Suggestions would be great then I can search.
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    I'm surprised how quiet mine is with only one muffler.

    I vote one in the centre and then 2" straight back to its usual position, or just before, exit in front of the rear wheel so it doesn't have to bend up and over the rear beem

    And buying exhaust stuff overseas? surely you have an exhaust shop that would welcome the change from FG Falcons and Toyota land cruisers?

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    Shoji my local exhaust shop built a complete 2 inch system including two mufflers and the engine pipes as well as a flexible piece that R17TS/G have and a joiner at the end of the engine pipes so as it is easy to remove the engine or gearbox without having to cut pipes etc. From memory it was quite cheap considering. It was 7 years ago but I think $380 rings a bell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    I'm surprised how quiet mine is with only one muffler.

    I vote one in the centre and then 2" straight back to its usual position, or just before, exit in front of the rear wheel so it doesn't have to bend up and over the rear beem

    And buying exhaust stuff overseas? surely you have an exhaust shop that would welcome the change from FG Falcons and Toyota land cruisers?

    Bowie. What type/brand muffler do you have?
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    New parts arrived while on holidays compliments of the Renault 12 shop. Wrong steering suspension part though. I wanted the under dash suspension block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoji View Post
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    I've been think about the muffler for my 17. We will be adding a new stainless 2" system after the engine is done. Still thinking about the extractors from Europe or the current manifold but it would need new engine pipes from Holland if I stay with the manifold. Currently there is the usual silencer at the back and the expansion box just behind the gearbox.

    Motor will have the dual DCOE's so they will sound nice.

    What should I fit and where would I put it? Without being rude. Would look good at the back if it is stainless.
    I'd like a note but not to loud. A stainless sports one is what I'm thinking about, but what one is good for these engines?
    Suggestions would be great then I can search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoji View Post
    It was the poly bushes.
    Stupid poly bushes. Tried more brainiac work on them only for them to creak and groan even more.

    So I grabbed the old rubber ones and added some extra rubber skins to the inside hole with super glue. I used some heater pipe which I stripped the two layers. wrapped it around a 22m diameter socket and then forced over with glue the rubber bushes. worked well. cleaned up the grease. I fitted them back on the car but swapped original sides.
    No noise and no grease!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoji View Post
    I used some heater pipe which I stripped the two layers. wrapped it around a 22m diameter socket and then forced over with glue the rubber bushes. worked well. cleaned up the grease.
    Was it rubber grease that was used? I'm thinking if it was anything else, it may not be heater hose rubber friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Was it rubber grease that was used? I'm thinking if it was anything else, it may not be heater hose rubber friendly.
    Simon. I cleaned up the lithium grease used on the poly bushes before placing with the the old refurbished rubber bushes. No grease at all now. Silent as a mouse.
    Now to rebuild the back suspension, at a later date. A few more bits to collect.
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    While the employee is sweating at work I decided to do a little more to my doors. Choices, choices. And I have the other two on the car with a few bubbles.

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    What was wrong with your doors?
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    Cancer in the corners. No one ever cleans the muck out. I bought two from a car being wrecked in VIC. These are in brilliant condition and I will use those. The third door that came with my 17, had rust but I weldded up a new corner. I'll end up with three spare.
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    Two doors chosen. Full putty job and then the black mist. I'm sure alot of AF guys know what this is for. A lot of sanding later. I use a large custom board with wet n dry for this sanding.

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    The "black mist" used just to make sanding easier, ie showing high / low bits?
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    Just make sure the doors match the car. Sometimes Renault tolerences are not the best, and the 15/17 waistline pressing in the door does not match the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Just make sure the doors match the car. Sometimes Renault tolerences are not the best, and the 15/17 waistline pressing in the door does not match the car.
    Point taken Squire. Will adjust accordingly or failing a good match go back to original panels and refurbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    The "black mist" used just to make sanding easier, ie showing high / low bits?
    And the scratches left in the filler, etc.
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    Are these the same size reflectors as the R17's. States 160mm
    https://www.franzose.de/en/Renault/S...ngen/ANR85419/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoji View Post
    Are these the same size reflectors as the R17's. States 160mm
    https://www.franzose.de/en/Renault/S...ngen/ANR85419/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Yes .
    Thanks Simon, wasn't much other info to go on. The 160mm as I measured on my pulled apart test unit, is from the two holes opposite each other. I'm not sure where the measurement is taken from but... if you say so. Thank you
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    Well I had another go at the sway bar bushes. Just grabbed what had a 22mm hole from supercheap. Had to use some other poly to pack it out. Cut it on the bandsaw and glued it on. Used the supplied grease and it has worked. Now it better stay quiet.
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    If only the bar was white

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    If only the bar was white

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    Default Renault Paint 331

    Finally got a mix code from DuPont for Renault 331. Had some mixed up into 2k for the doors.
    It's also called Mandarin Red for Opel/Vauxhall.
    The colour on the car is a Ford blood orange which is way different to the original colour. The 331 is dirtier. Trust the French to be dirtier
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    you gonna do the doors and see how close it is or prepare the whole monster?

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