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    Default Megane electrics from Microsoft...?

    Driving home tonight, instrument lights all absent. Doh...

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    At a long red light, turn off the car pull out card and lock it. Unlock, put card back in and restart - voila dash lights all back on...

    I feel like an episode of the IT Crowd - "did you turn it off and back on again..?"
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    If the electrics were from Apple, the car would be unaffordable.
    And only owned by affectionados.

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    If the electrics were apple, they be made by all the same parts manufacturers as MS anyway, but just put together more thoughtfully and priced well for a high specced and reliable machine that will retain relevance and usefulness for a longer period - making them cheaper in the long run.

    Megane electrics are very much MS...
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    Then why did you buy a car with such unsatisfactory electrics?

    But wait there is realistically no choice.

    I'd suggest that nearly all European manufacturers use "MS electrics" AKA Bosch & Marelli".

    So the OEMs have concluded exactly what the vast majority of computer users have also concluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    If the electrics were from Apple, the car would be unaffordable.
    And only owned by affectionados.
    …..nd would only allow you to drive on specific 'apple approved 'roads.
    It would then continually block your vision with a pop up window saying….'Please sign on to Apple drive' .

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    Could be worse, you could be at the mercy of the Prince of Darkness.
    Other wise known as Lucas.
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    & fail to light up on re-start
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    Renault uses Microsoft "Embedded OS" for all current models.
    You can change what is displayed on your dashboard info screen.
    Easy, watch Youtube, the place of all car repair knowledge with pics

    https://youtu.be/V3PMRciEthg

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    Oh dear.

    Ford discontinued the MS system for QNX, enabling Apple CarPlay. Other QNX users are General Motors, BMW and VAG.To give us more choice there is open source Genivi used by PSA and others. Intel, and vehicle component suppliers like Visteon Magneti-Marelli and Delphi are involved with Genivi.

    You can download the Genivi development platform for some common hardware like Raspberry Pi and do stuff of your own.

    These car systems are for entertainment and the like, not for the engine and body management bus. Should they do so, particularly if networked, get ready for some more hacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 27of85 View Post
    Could be worse, you could be at the mercy of the Prince of Darkness.
    Other wise known as Lucas.
    From a website with "lucas jokes"

    • The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."
    • Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.
    • Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.
    • Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.
    • The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off.
    • The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.
    • Lucas is an acronym for Loose Unsoldered Connections and Splices
    • Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency.
    • "I have had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never had any trou..."



    I think the acronym is my favourite

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    Yet I remember my Rovers from years ago whose headlights always worked, unlike the Holdens and VWs I passed (6v Bosch?). Lucas also made CAV diesel pumps, which were reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasink View Post
    Yet I remember my Rovers from years ago whose headlights always worked, unlike the Holdens and VWs I passed (6v Bosch?). Lucas also made CAV diesel pumps, which were reliable.
    It is all quite unfair of course, but making jokes about Lucas electrics has become a fine art-form.

    Consider, for example, the NOS Lucas Replacement Wiring Harness Smoke Kit



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    Icon10 Just a small quirky challenge...

    And to think I loved my Lucas electricals. so simple so easy to maintain and so sought after as replacements at swap meets. The knockers sort of remind me of what I encountered when introduced to French cars. Certain car sellers loved to put down French products as unreliable and difficult and expensive to maintain.

    I was delighted to find that at least French Renault spares and products cost less than those so called superior products, and that all replacement parts for most cars seemed to be sourced from similar suppliers with a known fault rate.

    I do still like some of the jokes that are put around, and of course electrickery gremlins make life interesting when you can easily fix them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego View Post
    And to think I loved my Lucas electricals, when really nothing is perfect

    Ken
    An interesting business model wouldn't you say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego View Post
    And to think I loved my Lucas electricals. so simple so easy to maintain and so sought after as replacements at swap meets.
    Ken
    With such a dreadful history of reliability it is no wonder Lucas electrics were sought after.

    I can almost smell the egg and bacon rolls as the impoverished owners of Britain's (Great or Little nowadays?) finest automotive achievements haggle over the price of an object that only they can find any sort of value beyond landfill.

    I had English cars for about 5 years before latching on to a Renault 16. A revelation!
    I know from painful experience how Morris incorporated bad design with poor execution. The "redeeming" feature was that it could be driven flatout nearly everywhere when it went.
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    Jesus, I was just making a light hearted joke having recently watched an episode of IT Crowd (and dealt again with the daily nightmare of a ****ing horrible buggy unreliable windows shit government "IT" systems....).

    Horrified to see it might actually be an MS glitch!
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