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    I made an enquiry about a 1 owner (apparently) 2003 Scenic RX4 recently.

    The car looked really good and the photos were quite comprehensive but the photos didn't show the drivers seat where they often wear/split.

    Being quite intetested in the RX4 as a second car, I sent this message to the seller....

    My interest started disapating by the syllable....

    G'day,
    I'm just enquiring about the Renault Scenic on Gumtree.

    Do you know when the timing/cam belt was last changed?

    Does it have a full service history?

    What is the leather on the drivers seat like (including the side bit near the adjuster)?

    Regards,

    Richard
    I then received this response:


    Wow Richard

    The car has done 80 clocks, so not even due for a timing belt , although these cars have chains not belts

    The leather as u see on the photos
    I then clarified:


    No worries.

    They have a Timing belt due every 4 years or 100K.

    I can't see the right side of the drivers seat in the photos. They often split the seams on the right.
    In response....


    On the leather there is not splits ,
    And the belts on the car are chains and not been changed
    Cos they don't need it and I lost the service book as my ex wife through it away for my 2 cars.
    An F4R with a Timing Chain...wonders never cease...

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    On a side note, would a Scenic make 13 years on the original belt?

    It's only done 80k so it's probably possible, but surely its been changed atleast once in that time?
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    Yes, it could still be on it's original timing belt at 80,000 klicks but the first thing you'd do if you buy it is change the belt.
    The Diesel motors in the 2WD Scenics had a timing chain but as far as I'm aware the RX4 wasn't available in a diesel anywhere on the planet, cetrainly not in Australia.
    The ol 'wife threw out the log book'. Sure mate, don't blame the wife, maybe the dog ate it.
    The drivers seat leather should still be okay if the 80,000km (clocks?) is real. The fact the seller is not prepared to photograph it is a concern but he may just be too lazy or disinterested.
    It would want to be a very good price though.
    A new timing belt will probably be close to a grand unless you do it yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REN TIN TIN View Post
    Yes, it could still be on it's original timing belt at 80,000 klicks but the first thing you'd do if you buy it is change the belt.
    The Diesel motors in the 2WD Scenics had a timing chain but as far as I'm aware the RX4 wasn't available in a diesel anywhere on the planet, cetrainly not in Australia.
    The ol 'wife threw out the log book'. Sure mate, don't blame the wife, maybe the dog ate it.
    The drivers seat leather should still be okay if the 80,000km (clocks?) is real. The fact the seller is not prepared to photograph it is a concern but he may just be too lazy or disinterested.
    It would want to be a very good price though.
    A new timing belt will probably be close to a grand unless you do it yourself.
    I have seen TD RX4's in the UK, so they do exist abroad.

    To be fair, there were plenty of photographs taken of the car, but just none happened to show the bolster where they wear.

    The price is high for an RX4, but consummate with the condition I suppose. Alot are looking pretty second hand by now.

    Adding an immediate 1K to the price tips it from, 'High, but justifiable' to 'Exorbitant'.

    Knowing my luck, it'd snap the belt on the way home, so I'd probably factor in a flatbed too...

    I would probably order the cam lock tool and change it at home.
    Last edited by mistareno; 17th April 2017 at 12:15 PM.

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    Default Hmmm !

    Hi
    I would be careful with this one !
    Quote from the site information.


    • Key: Yes
    • Spare Key: No
    • Owners Manual: Yes
    • Service History: Partial
    • Engine Turns Over: No
    • Seats and Upholstery: Fair
    • Controls and Dash: Fair
    • Paint: Fair
    • Marks & Scratches location: Minor around
    • Dents location: Evident LHS rear wheel arch, Minor around
    • Other Notes: Car non-mobile, Car carrier required for pick up


    Sounds like the timing belt/pulleys could have already failed.

    Jaahn

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    Oops I missed that ! Still a pretty good 120k Megane 11 went for $605 last week (motor running!)
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