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    OK, seeing I am not going to get a set of Gordini steel wheels, I will go in a different direction.

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    I want tech information of Citroen C5 "Steelie" wheels, and some pictures of outside and inside. What sizes do they come in.

    Does anybody have 5 the same, for sale???

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    One size, 15 x 6, 18ET. There are two styles of bolt holes however, flat seat and tapered seat. The flat seat type were recalled.
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    Just what is the intention here? The offset of the C5 rims looks wrong. If one wanted to craft steelies for a rear-engined Renault, then are you after original width & 15" or wider & 15" or would you consider another diameter & so on?

    cheers! Pete

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    Hi Pete,
    My intention here is to just see what they look like in standard form. Gives me Ideas. Light bulb!!!!1

    By the way the last person to ask me what my intentions were, was my Father In Law, with regards to his daughter. Little did he know ...... !!!!

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    We've got a full set if your interested.

    Surprisingly big sellers, usually for clubman type cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    Hi Pete,
    My intention here is to just see what they look like in standard form. Gives me Ideas. Light bulb!!!!1
    I have often thought with the uniqueness of the R8/10 wheel (3 stud) that why has not anyone considered a hub conversion to a more conventional 4/5 stud hub set up as the number of alloy wheels available (say early Torana XU1 / SLR 13") would be far cost effective than paying $2000 odd + transport from France (ie Mecaparts)?
    I suspect this would have meant a specially made hub to suit the stub axel setup, but with modern CNC and lathes this should be easily done or is it a ADR issue?
    Maybe someone has been down this path before and can probably enlighten me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    I have often thought with the uniqueness of the R8/10 wheel (3 stud) that why has not anyone considered a hub conversion to a more conventional 4/5 stud hub set up as the number of alloy wheels available (say early Torana XU1 / SLR 13") would be far cost effective than paying $2000 odd + transport from France (ie Mecaparts)? I suspect this would have meant a specially made hub to suit the stub axel setup, but with modern CNC and lathes this should be easily done or is it a ADR issue? Maybe someone has been down this path before and can probably enlighten me? Cheers Angelo
    I reckon there was a thread, or at least a mention on a thread, of exactly this, perhaps 5+ years ago? It's been done, that is for sure.
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    Pete, they're actually lightweight aluminium; only about 5 kg, hence the interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4cvg View Post
    Just what is the intention here? The offset of the C5 rims looks wrong. If one wanted to craft steelies for a rear-engined Renault, then are you after original width & 15" or wider & 15" or would you consider another diameter & so on?

    cheers! Pete


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    Waynerenault in WA did exactly that (redrill for four stud or an adaptor of some sort) on his green machine.
    The car ended up going to scrap after a few changes in ownership as I recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    Waynerenault in WA did exactly that (redrill for four stud or an adaptor of some sort) on his green machine.
    The car ended up going to scrap after a few changes in ownership as I recall.
    That's the one KB. Thanks. That was the early R1132 I gave him I fear..... However, I do have the key early-type bumpers as a spare for my R1130 and it gave me a set of black and white genuine number plates for the 4CV!
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    The C5 steelies are really nice. Ive had a few sets in possession and have used them both on my 106 Rallye, Xsara VTS and both my Berlingos. Actually I also considdered butchering a set to make 15" bimetal wheels for my R8. Unfortunately the inner diameter of the rim were a few mm to small for the R8 steel centre.

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    I've always liked holey steelies for some reason. My black 206 would suit a set of those black ones I reckon. Plus they're the same size as the Ouragans, but with 10mm different more positive offset which may not be a problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidar View Post
    The C5 steelies are really nice. Ive had a few sets in possession and have used them both on my 106 Rallye, Xsara VTS and both my Berlingos. Actually I also considdered butchering a set to make 15" bimetal wheels for my R8. Unfortunately the inner diameter of the rim were a few mm to small for the R8 steel centre.
    Surely a too small rim is not an issue as one just cuts down the centre diameter by that amount. A too large rim on the other hand . . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    Pete, they're actually lightweight aluminium; only about 5 kg, hence the interest.
    Goodness! I've not before heard of an alloy wheel made to look like a steel one.

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    Gee I'm a nob. They're an inch smaller than the 206 wheels.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    I've always liked holey steelies for some reason. My black 206 would suit a set of those black ones I reckon. Plus they're the same size as the Ouragans, but with 10mm different more positive offset which may not be a problem.


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    I've passed comment on the widening of standard 4x15" wheels in the related thread in the parts-for-sale/wanted section. One thing that I didn't say there is that 150 m is a common PCD for 6-stud commercial wheels.
    Before simply reinforcing the standard centres as explained in that other forum post, I considered converting to 6-stud (& had a jig made up using an old R12 hub). Given the strength of the centres of commercial wheels, I imagine that one could just use 3 studs & holes & fit dummies to the other 3 but no doubt the relevant authorities would freak out.

    cheers! Peter

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    The rims of the 5x15" and 5,5x15" of the old ID/DS fits perfectly on the R8 centers. I have made two such R8 wheels in 5,5x15. Another option is the rims from the 6,5x15" of the newer type Berlingo. A bit wide for standard arches though... I guess there is 6x15" options also but I have found that the inner diameter of the rim is 3-4mm to small on most 15" steel wheels.

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    Reidar you are great !!!

    OK I need to find somebody in the West who will have some 15x5 or 5.5 Citroen wheels that I can look at and measure. What Reidar says is also true with Berlingo, as I have seen them with 175/65/15 tyres on which looked a proper fit so would be a 5.5, so Berlingo wheels as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidar View Post
    The rims of the 5x15" and 5,5x15" of the old ID/DS fits perfectly on the R8 centers. I have made two such R8 wheels in 5,5x15. Another option is the rims from the 6,5x15" of the newer type Berlingo. A bit wide for standard arches though... I guess there is 6x15" options also but I have found that the inner diameter of the rim is 3-4mm to small on most 15" steel wheels.
    Hi Reidar
    Any photos on what they would look like on and off the R8?
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    You can have practically any size wheel you like on you R8/R10 just by buying the size rim you prefer and then have a wheel maker laser cut a centre to suit and weld it in, in place of the original centre.
    I drew my desired centre patern on a piece of hardbord with a school compass, took it to the wheel man and he cut the centres accordingly.

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    I have some pictures from the wheel project and other R8 stuff in this thread. Its in Norwegian but it might make som sense if run through google translate:
    Trim-4-eldre.com Forum

    I never got to try the wheels in real life. Suddenly I had too many other alternatives. CMR steelies picked up in France, Cosmic alloys and standard Gordini 4,5x15.










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    Some really great photos.

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