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    Can someone advise who is a good source for new Ducillier alternators 70amp to fit a R8G motor in an A110? I've looked on eBay here and in France but to no avail. Similarly, Simons Auto my usual supplier doesn't have any. If stretched, I can have my existing one reconditioned but would prefer to then have it as a spare and put a new one on the car.

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    To ask a leading question: would you consider replacing the Ducellier alternator with something a bit better engineered and more readily available ?

    The only reason a sane person would use a Ducellier alternator would be for (fanatical) originality reasons .

    And ever then, some of AFs most dedicated restorers have acquiesced and fitted modern alternators to their restorations.
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    Bazza - what about the bloke who last year or so, brought over an R8G from Zimbabwe? His family seemed to have good stocks of things on their shed's shelves.

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    Whats wrong with your Ducellier alternator Bazzamac?

    If you had yours reconditioned, I reckon it would see you out.

    Here is a few Ducellier alternators and spares on French Ebay.

    http://www.ebay.fr/ alternateur Ducellier
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    Odd quirk of click-though links, it takes you to your "home" country's Fleabay page...

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    Odd quirk of click-though links, it takes you to your "home" country's Fleabay page...
    Yer I noticed that when I checked to make sure the link worked.

    I'm sure Bazzamac will be able to work it out.

    URL ebay.fr and the type in alternateur Ducellier and I think there is about 140 items to choose from whole alternators to spare parts.
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    What's wrong with Bosch as an alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    What's wrong with Bosch as an alternative.
    Nothing wrong with it, but if you can repair the original with little cost and effort why not.
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    The bit where he said he wants a spare - presumably after the targa failure that occurred?

    To quote that taco commercial, why not have both?
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    little cost and effort
    Exactly the reason why a readily available replacement make sense. AKA Holden/ Bosch alternator. Any DIY wrecker has them in abundance at $30 -$40 and spares are as common as dirt. Buy two and stick one in car as a spare. And you end up far better alternator to boot.

    Googling French Ebay, battling the language barrier and awaiting parts from overseas already seems not to be "with little cost and effort".

    But Col and I (continue) agree to disagree on this approach.

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    I actually quite enjoy the "retail tourism" of buying overseas, the occasional challenge of finding something obscure, the reward felt when you restore an odd fitment to nice appearance and good working order. If you're on the clock or in a "no room for failure" situation it is possibly quite a different set of provocations, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Exactly the reason why a readily available replacement make sense. AKA Holden/ Bosch alternator. Any DIY wrecker has them in abundance at $30 -$40 and spares are as common as dirt. Buy two and stick one in car as a spare. And you end up far better alternator to boot.

    Googling French Ebay, battling the language barrier and awaiting parts from overseas already seems not to be "with little cost and effort".

    But Col and I (continue) agree to disagree on this approach.
    All my alternator re-builds have cost me less than $40 and make the alternator as good as new. It takes about and hours work to rebuild an alternator and then bolt back on the car.

    I would use your approach if the alternator was not able to be rebuilt or unable to get spare parts. Then you would have to spend time fabricating brackets and changing wiring to suit.
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    What an amazing array of responses - thanks guys. My alternator did not fail during Targa - it was a short in a new Amp gauge. However, the guys at Devonport Auto Electrics (Keith and Damian) tested the alternator and found it was charging but did say it was a bit noisy suggesting it might need new bearings. Nothing wrong with Bosch alternators as have used them on my other Renaults and have a few sitting on the shelf from Fuegos and R12s. Just looking to try and keep things original but not against putting in better gear if it suits. Will have a look at French flea bay and see what's available Col using the terms you suggest.

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    Bazzamac

    The bearings are pretty common and should only cost about $5 each, they can be got at your local bearing supplier.

    I have sourced my brushes from Ashdown by just matching the size from a sample. The brushes are easily changed with a soldering iron.

    If the slips rings are worn they can be machined quite easily in a lathe but only remove the smallest amount from slip rings. If there is a huge groove in the slip rings, they can be changed quite easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Exactly the reason why a readily available replacement make sense. AKA Holden/ Bosch alternator. Any DIY wrecker has them in abundance at $30 -$40 and spares are as common as dirt. Buy two and stick one in car as a spare. And you end up far better alternator to boot.

    Googling French Ebay, battling the language barrier and awaiting parts from overseas already seems not to be "with little cost and effort".

    But Col and I (continue) agree to disagree on this approach.
    A very sensible approach. I agree with you whole heartedly.

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