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    Hi
    i have just received a quote back from Mecaparts for a plastic surround that sits in the rear panel that houses the key barrel. It's MP4337.

    Mecaparts price is 4.68Ä with quoted postage of 30Ä!!

    there must be a minimum charge for postage and handling, but is extraordinary considering a little plastic part the side of a washer which can fit in a normal envelope.

    i was wondering if anyone from Melbourne is contemplating an order with Mecaparts in the near future that is willing to let me piggyback on their order?

    Pls let me know if you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    Hi
    i have just received a quote back from Mecaparts for a plastic surround that sits in the rear panel that houses the key barrel. It's MP4337.

    Mecaparts price is 4.68€ with quoted postage of 30€!!

    there must be a minimum charge for postage and handling, but is extraordinary considering a little plastic part the side of a washer which can fit in a normal envelope.

    i was wondering if anyone from Melbourne is contemplating an order with Mecaparts in the near future that is willing to let me piggyback on their order? Pls let me know if you are. cheers Angelo
    I'll have a poke around for you tomorrow. I should have one if I could just think where! My early R8 doesn't take them. If I can find it, you can have it.

    Don't you "need" a big brake kit or something?
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    [QUOTE Don't you "need" a big brake kit or something? [/QUOTE]

    Thanks John that would be great if you find something in reasonable nick.
    I ordered a whole lot of parts recently and totally forgot to include this part
    I already have a big brake on it (from the Fiat 132) so no need to go back (yet) to Mecaparts
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    [QUOTE Don't you "need" a big brake kit or something?

    I already have a big brake on it (from the Fiat 132) so no need to go back (yet) to Mecaparts
    Cheers
    Angelo[/QUOTE]

    Hi Angelo,

    I learnt something today, the Fiat rear caliper looks like it is identical to the Fuego Turbo rear. That is grea.t and now you can use the same cable for the handbrake as well.

    It looks like the difference is in the caliper holder but it is a bit hard to see from that picture.
    Disc pad choice is a bit wider now as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    I already have a big brake on it (from the Fiat 132) so no need to go back (yet) to Mecaparts
    Cheers
    Angelo
    Hi Angelo,

    I learnt something today, the Fiat rear caliper looks like it is identical to the Fuego Turbo rear. That is grea.t and now you can use the same cable for the handbrake as well.

    It looks like the difference is in the caliper holder but it is a bit hard to see from that picture.
    Disc pad choice is a bit wider now as well.

    Regards

    Frans[/QUOTE]

    Thanks Frans,
    I was scratching my head to see what handbrake cable I should use with this set up as the std one did not seem to fit nicely. I will see what I can find locally, but am not sure Australia imported any Turbo Fuegos?
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    Hi Angelo,

    I learnt something today, the Fiat rear caliper looks like it is identical to the Fuego Turbo rear. That is grea.t and now you can use the same cable for the handbrake as well.

    It looks like the difference is in the caliper holder but it is a bit hard to see from that picture.
    Disc pad choice is a bit wider now as well.

    Regards

    Frans
    Thanks Frans,
    I was scratching my head to see what handbrake cable I should use with this set up as the std one did not seem to fit nicely. I will see what I can find locally, but am not sure Australia imported any Turbo Fuegos?
    Cheers
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    No Fuego turbos sold here. A few private imports but no spare parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    [QUOTE Don't you "need" a big brake kit or something?
    Thanks John that would be great if you find something in reasonable nick.
    I ordered a whole lot of parts recently and totally forgot to include this part
    I already have a big brake on it (from the Fiat 132) so no need to go back (yet) to Mecaparts
    Cheers
    Angelo[/QUOTE]

    Hi Angelo,

    Found it. Brand new in a bag. PM me your address and I'll pop it in the mail.

    Cheers
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    Angelo, can you share some more details on the conversion?
    What discs, any mods or plate required for mounting?

    KB
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    Angelo,

    Have a look again, I used the R8 handbrake cable as is. I even left the long threaded adjuster screw on incase there is a need in future to return it to std.

    The handbrake adjustment on these calipers are automatic. It keeps on adjusting itself everytime you pull the handbrake up so don't worry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Thanks John that would be great if you find something in reasonable nick.
    I ordered a whole lot of parts recently and totally forgot to include this part
    I already have a big brake on it (from the Fiat 132) so no need to go back (yet) to Mecaparts
    Cheers
    Angelo
    Thanks John
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    Hi Angelo,

    Found it. Brand new in a bag. PM me your address and I'll pop it in the mail.

    Cheers[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    Angelo, can you share some more details on the conversion?
    What discs, any mods or plate required for mounting?

    KB
    Hi KB

    For the Rear the discs are R16 (12mm thick) with R16 Carriers and Fiat 132 callipers. The was a special bracket made up (which you can't see) which held all this together. Rob Sealey helped out with this.


    The front also used a R16 disc (12mm) with R16 Carries and R16 Callipers. Again there was a smaller special bracket used to mount all of this on the Mecaparts Alum bracket. (I don't have pic of this just here -sorry)



    I believe this as a similar set up as used by Ross on his yellow race Dauphine. There is a detail thread from Ross on this elsewhere here (somewhere)

    hope this helps a little,
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    Looks like the hubs have been drilled? Not allowed to do that for a street vehicle. Not in nsw anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.lees View Post
    Looks like the hubs have been drilled? Not allowed to do that for a street vehicle. Not in nsw anyway.
    Hi Christian, if Frans and Ross drive their race cars under extreme loads with same set up on a race track, then I figure the setup is safe enough for me, but I get your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    Angelo,

    Have a look again, I used the R8 handbrake cable as is. I even left the long threaded adjuster screw on incase there is a need in future to return it to std.

    The handbrake adjustment on these calipers are automatic. It keeps on adjusting itself everytime you pull the handbrake up so don't worry about that.

    Frans
    thanks Frans will take a closer look next time I am under the car.
    cheers
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    KB,

    I think the thread that Angelo refers to is this one. Big Brake Conversion for R8/R10 A110

    I have a fair amount of detail in there but feel free to ask.

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    Thanks Frans,
    It's just the rears that I'd be looking at so I'll have to study page 2 in more detail I suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c.lees View Post
    Looks like the hubs have been drilled? Not allowed to do that for a street vehicle. Not in nsw anyway.
    Thats the way the Alpine factory did it when they made the big brake kits for the Alpine A110.

    I can supply you with the Alpine part numbers and factory diagrams also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COL View Post
    Thats the way the Alpine factory did it when they made the big brake kits for the Alpine A110.

    I can supply you with the Alpine part numbers and factory diagrams also.
    That may be a good piece of info to have, the rotors I'm thinking if using have holes in bad spots for the rears.

    I wonder if it makes a difference if you do it yourself.

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    Any idea what the increase in unsprung weight is? Front and rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.lees View Post
    That may be a good piece of info to have, the rotors I'm thinking if using have holes in bad spots for the rears.

    I wonder if it makes a difference if you do it yourself.
    Agree, could be useful as justification for engineering certification here in NSW. I'm using the FIA homologation papers for R8G for other mods.
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    Angelo,
    I think it is time to start a project section for your R8. It seems there is enough interest in what you are doing.

    And it is definitely Project Worthy....... !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    Angelo,
    I think it is time to start a project section for your R8. It seems there is enough interest in what you are doing.

    And it is definitely Project Worthy....... !!!!!

    Ray
    I agree!!! - I think he may have already started one, but definitely time to update it Angelo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    I agree!!! - I think he may have already started one, but definitely time to update it Angelo!
    Yes I agree, as many of the AF's have helped in one way or another over the years to get me to this point, so would like to share journey (both pleasure, pain and disappointment).

    I have a little more to go until I feel its time, as i want to have it all together before starting. I will start from when I first picked it up (as unfinished project) to completion. I have over 3000 photos documenting the rebuild, as most of the work was done myself (with some help of course). I have learnt a lot along the way about R8's and feel if (god forbid) I have to do it again, I will know how and what to do.

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