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    Hi guys,

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    Just back from lovely Tasmania yesterday and started up the RS for the first time in 2 weeks.

    Error code: Steering Fail

    Incredibly heavy steering (as in car is not driveable).

    Thinking my electric steering column has failed. There's something on the English forums about them failing on Modus' but doesn't appear to have happened here through my (lightweight) searching.

    Great car but I guess would only be worth 3-4ish with everything working?

    Has anyone come across this issue before? Does Dave Collier put in replacement units? Is there a good Renault guy nearer to Neutral Bay?

    As normal, this happens during the Christmas/New Year period where everyone is closed...

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    Just be happy you weren't giving it a fang on the road.

    Best possible time to fail from a safety aspect.

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    How does the steering assistance work? Is it an electric pump moving the fluid to a conventional rack or some other system?
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    Maurice and Pierre are closer than Colliers. Maybe see if Capago wants a cashie too?

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    Have you checked the fuse, I think they are 40 amp or something like that.
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    Known failure item. Get a complete column from a wrecker and swap - will take you a few hours to do. Not hard, just fiddly.

    Sport and non sport columns are compatible, but you might need to plug it into a CLIP to set the right assistance setting. Non sport ones obviously are lighter.
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    You might also try Renotech at Hornsby - marginally closer perhaps?
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    And of course get it plugged into a CLIP to confirm motor/computer failure before pulling it out...

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    Thanks guys for the info.
    I thought the RS may have breathed her last breath.
    Apologies for my ignorance, but where are Maurice, Pierre, and Capago located. Are they the Riverwood connection?

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    Cameron (Capago) is in Berowra.

    Julian (RenaultTech) is in Hornsby.

    Maurice et Pierre (PQ Automotive) are in Chatswood.

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    Thanks Addo.

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    P.S. Maybe a PM to Kenny (young 4 old pugs) as to the likely cause of this error message?

    He's too far to help in person but may well share the knowledge. One bloke I would leave a car with and have no concerns whatsoever about the work done.

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    It looks like this? Common Modus Power Steering Fault

    If there are carbon brushes involved i'd check them first - might be a brush-less motor?
    On my Toyota i have a brush type motor that failed at about 150,000km. To replace the whole unit is a bit over $2000 so i simply had the motor re-wound and a now commutator put on for $140-.
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    It was probably sulking because you left it behind!
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    I think she means "dermo sluchayetsya, tovarisch".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Australdi View Post
    It was probably sulking because you left it behind!
    Yes, the Hyundai i20 handled quite well but the little 1.4 auto could have had a bit more poke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    I think she means "dermo sluchayetsya, tovarisch".
    It does indeed, Addo, It does indeed.

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    Curiously, upon starting the RS today the fault had cleared and the steering was fine.

    Still, will book it in at PQ when they open. Be nice to drive it there than have it towed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68 404 View Post
    Curiously, upon starting the RS today the fault had cleared and the steering was fine.

    Still, will book it in at PQ when they open. Be nice to drive it there than have it towed.

    Dave
    Strange, could be an intermittent fault.
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    The battery voltage was probably just low after sitting for 2 weeks. It's apparently a pretty common problem in Europe where the colder temps can sap the battery quite quickly if not used. Apparently, just let the battery charge for a few minutes, switch off and when you restart, the fault should clear.

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    Picked up the RS from Colliers this morning.

    It was the steering motor that died. Seems like it is not an uncommon fault judging by our European reports.

    Second hand column fitted, and even got the airbag clock spring fixed.

    All good. Thanks for the input.

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    Did you get the old motor back and had a look inside? Is it a brush motor?

    One reason for my interest is because we have a Megane as well. It's got a few years warranty left but suspect it also has this steering system?
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    Nope. Didn't get it back.

    All Megane 2's onwards had electric power steering. As did the 3s. And pretty much every car made these days, as it gets away with the hydraulic steering system entirely (and the consequent drain on engine power).

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    Thanks Dave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68 404 View Post
    Nope. Didn't get it back.

    All Megane 2's onwards had electric power steering. As did the 3s. And pretty much every car made these days, as it gets away with the hydraulic steering system entirely (and the consequent drain on engine power).

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    On the subject of "every car made these days", Mum got a recall notice in the mail for her i30 electric PS and has it booked in with the dealer this week.

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