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    David, Yes will do. With Ian the 3 of us are nearly a convoy

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    Well the rears where rubbing with the cool fat rubber, I went and got myself a tool to sort it out, now to get the car back...

    I lent it to my mate (whom I purchased it off 2~ yrs ago) at the start of the week and now he has stopped replying to my txt's, I assume he's having fun

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    Looking good Bowie, hadn't seen this thread for a while! I want another one.
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    the 3x150 PCD stud pattern strikes again! The face on the tool is not even large enough to seat over the studs, I.e I won't just be able to drill it to suite. I'm going to have to make an adapter to mount the neat guard crushing tool.

    But I might try a rolling pin first however

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    Could the tool be bolted to an offcut of structural plywood, the ply then bolted to the studs on the hub? Or does the face of the tool still interfere with the suds?
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    Yep that's how I'd go about it actually. A near enough round bit of wood say 15mm - 20mm thick, One could counter sink the bolt heads by 10mm on the tool side to ensure the near enough round bit of wood, would sit flush against the hub.

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    Like to see a photo of the tool.

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    Honestly... I'm probably going to end up using a rolling pin. Looking at it properly.. I was a Muppet spending money on this thing.

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    Put a set of old tyres on the back and drive around a shopping centre car park a few times.
    (If you can get some slightly wider than you need would be best)
    After you go over enough speed bumps the tyres will fold back the lip for you.
    When you're finished, put the good tyres back on.
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    Suppose I could just take the suspension out and do a few hard laps of it on the bump stops too

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Suppose I could just take the suspension out and do a few hard laps of it on the bump stops too
    Yes, that would work but taking the springs out is much bigger job than just bolting on some wider tyres and cruising the speed-bumps in the shopping centres.
    I don't know about Sydney or Melbourne but the shopping centres here seem to have a speed bump every 20 metres or so a few laps would probably do the job.
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    Well that went well.

    My R12 POS Arrived!-wp_20170324_19_33_09_pro.jpg

    Ouuuucccch!

    Jack under beam, raise at as much as you can, rolling pin up under it and the combo of the soft tyre wall and the soft suspension means rolling it back and forward over the top 35 degrees (really only where it rubbing it seems) is a real pain in the arse!

    Still, rolled them up as much as I could whilst still being able to move my arms... Speed Bump Test...

    AH FFFFFFFSSFFSFSFSFS

    Crr Crrr it went on the way up and the way down. More rolling for me.

    I then went to find some hills and long sweeping corners, that made it crrr crrr last time too, and, well i think it's a little better. So it mighty be ok. A more tougher test on the way back from work tomorrow me thinks.

    You know a load of rear camber would probably fix the scrubbing too.. I did notice under compression it added a few degrees too. Does simply lowering these things add a few degrees of negative camber too?

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    Wanted Old 15/17 brakes and gearbox bits Click!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    I did notice under compression it added a few degrees too. Does simply lowering these things add a few degrees of negative camber too?
    No. It is a simple straight beam with no independent articulation across the axle. So if it goes negative on one side, it is positive on the other side.

    The specs are zero degrees to zero 30 minutes positive camber. with 0 - 1.5mm toe out.
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    #slaps head. Yeah I should have thought about that for 1/2 a second.

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    Playing: R12, SuperPos, nearly together, thinks It's a race car.
    Previous: SuperGrumpy fuel spitting 504ti(ish), SuperComfortable 505 STI, SuperDoper carried my groceries Mi16
    Wanted Old 15/17 brakes and gearbox bits Click!

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