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    Default Dauphine Brake Shoes

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    The workshop manual is explicit: the long shoes face the front.

    However, the rears on mine are t'other way around on ONE side. Incorrect assembly??

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    Pictured is the correct way, yes??

    What a challenge removing that top brake spring is!

    I spent over half a day welding bits onto some derelict multi-grips & then realized it only works only on one side plus it would have damaged the new linings during re-installation later.

    I found used Hazet brake spring pliers online & they are on the way. Top quality albeit at a price. The prices paid for those Hazet toolkits that fit inside the VW beetle spare wheel would make your jaw drop.
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    Geodon,
    As your project is of interest to a lot on here, why not transplant it all to one thread on the Project folder. I am sure it would be far better to be able to go through the whole project in one place.

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    Yes Ray.

    I was thinking that.

    I will open the project folder & link the existing posts.
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    Get one of these for spring removal
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    Saw that & yes it was MUCH cheaper,

    But the pointy bit would dig into the lining on re-assembly?

    Instead of a point, the Hazet has a flexible foot to spread the load with a roughened surface to get grip & prevent slippage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geodon View Post
    But the pointy bit would dig into the lining on re-assembly?
    There was a Renault special tool that clipped onto the brake shoe at the bottom, with a bend at the same level of the spring for the point bit of the pliers to hook into so as to not damage the lining.
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    The workshop manual is explicit: the long shoes face the front.

    However, the rears on mine are t'other way around on ONE side. Incorrect assembly??

    Pictured is the correct way, yes??

    What a challenge removing that top brake spring is!

    I spent over half a day welding bits onto some derelict multi-grips & then realized it only works only on one side plus it would have damaged the new linings during re-installation later.

    I found used Hazet brake spring pliers online & they are on the way. Top quality albeit at a price. The prices paid for those Hazet toolkits that fit inside the VW beetle spare wheel would make your jaw drop.
    Photo 1 does look right. Photo 2 is hard to see.

    Regarding the spring removal/replacement tools, damaging a tiny part of the lining area really doesn't matter IMHO. Those tools were designed when linings were riveted on, before the ultra-modern "bonded" linings appeared. The tool pin pressed against a rivet head.

    I used one like the Super Cheap example when I put Dauphine brakes on the 4CV a couple of years ago and it was fine. Always a bit tricky if you haven't done it before and graduated in high level swearing.
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    Default The Hazet Pliers!

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    Man! What a difference the right tool makes!

    Much dearer than the ones above but the grip on the shoe is foolproof.
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    Man! What a difference the right tool makes!

    Much dearer than the ones above but the grip on the shoe is foolproof.
    That's wonderful. I might have to find one of that exact tool. Many thanks for posting.
    JohnW

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