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    One of my work colleagues came across this Renault 12 sticker. I like it!

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    G'day,
    is that better than 3 l/100 km ? That's what I get from my Works Honda.
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    It converts to 13.4 km/litre, or 7.46 l/100km

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    Quote Originally Posted by pug206gti View Post
    G'day,
    is that better than 3 l/100 km ? That's what I get from my Works Honda.
    I get 5L/100km from our 1.4tsi Skoda Fabia RS - not quite as low as the Honda - but a hell of lot more fun.

    What Honda is it? A hybrid surely. Or a motorcycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    I get 5L/100km from our 1.4tsi Skoda Fabia RS - not quite as low as the Honda - but a hell of lot more fun.

    What Honda is it? A hybrid surely. Or a motorcycle?

    The latter.

    I guess that was true when the R12 was new. With worn carbies and dizzies and engines, it's more like 10l/100km (urban) these days.

    I flog the bejesus out of my wagon and can go up to 12l/100 easily. But on long journeys, yes, it still goes down towards 8 as long as I keep it around 100km/h. Their manufacturer recommended economical speed back in the 70s was 90km/h and I am pretty sure mine would hit the mark if I had the patience.
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    It's his work vehicle. He was in a documentary some years back, before they got motorised.
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    That 3 l/100 km is achieved at delivery speed. Stop, start, 1st and sometimes 2nd gear. Approximately 1050 times a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pug206gti View Post
    G'day,

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    That 3 l/100 km is achieved at delivery speed. Stop, start, 1st and sometimes 2nd gear. Approximately 1050 times a day.
    Well that's not bad at all. Credit to the engineering of the bike too.

    The reason I asked is that Prius is now delivering around 3.9 l/100km and I know Honda have a hybrid currently only in Japan.

    I'll stick with the 1.4 TSI thanks.
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    I think Honda sold some hybrids here too in the 2000s?

    I've seen a couple of these (Insight?) driving around a while ago (before the Prius):

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    Das computermachine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitssparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken bei das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in das pockets-relaxen und watch das blinkenlights.

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    The Insight is not on Honda Australia current list of available cars.

    They may well have been brought to Australia for test/ marketing purposes or possibly private imports.

    IMO hybrid is not way go due to the embedded energy and initial cost.

    Diesels may be better now eoyls fluid is being phased out .

    Personally I'll stick with high efficiency petrol engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    I think Honda sold some hybrids here too in the 2000s?

    I've seen a couple of these (Insight?) driving around a while ago (before the Prius):

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PyyGCMAfcn...a-Hybrid-4.jpg
    Those first gen Insights are super cool. All alloy, heaps of lightweight suspension and brake stuff and stupid economy when driven properly. I'd love one, but they very rarely come up for sale by their very loving owners!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    I think Honda sold some hybrids here too in the 2000s?

    I've seen a couple of these (Insight?) driving around a while ago (before the Prius):

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    The current Insight was sold for a while too, just discontinued this year. It was a fairly dull Prius competitor 5 door hatch.

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    There's at least a couple of new Honda hybrids at the moment. New Jazz hybrid and new CR-Z hybrids but they don't work the same as Toyota hybrids ....
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    Haakon, buy a Camry hybrid, go on, you know you want to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J-man View Post
    One of my work colleagues came across this Renault 12 sticker. I like it!

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    I reckon I can still get that out of my R12 if I drove at a steady 80 to 90 Km/h

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    G'day,
    is that better than 3 l/100 km ? That's what I get from my Works Honda.
    Thats cheating, it only has 2 wheels.

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    The latter.

    I guess that was true when the R12 was new. With worn carbies and dizzies and engines, it's more like 10l/100km (urban) these days.

    I flog the bejesus out of my wagon and can go up to 12l/100 easily. But on long journeys, yes, it still goes down towards 8 as long as I keep it around 100km/h. Their manufacturer recommended economical speed back in the 70s was 90km/h and I am pretty sure mine would hit the mark if I had the patience.
    If I drive hard I can also achieve this fuel consumption
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    Eeeewww.........all this talk about Hondas and Toyotas on a french car forum is making me feel queesy
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    How do the modern hybrids compare on the highway? I know there good around town when there using battery but out on the freeways I think diesel and small petrol is still better.

    Interestly when I spoke to our local toyota dealer in Kyneton about a cheap economical car to commute to Melbourne and back he suggested corolla and when I asked about prius he just said no corolla is better.
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    Is this a competition.... Gee's I win hands down... The old Rangy will do easily 25L/100km ambling the 10minute drive to work and home if I drive it ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post
    Interestly when I spoke to our local toyota dealer in Kyneton about a cheap economical car to commute to Melbourne and back he suggested corolla and when I asked about prius he just said no corolla is better.
    better profit margins on a corrolla?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave_R16TS View Post
    better profit margins on a corrolla?
    Yeah I thought that too. When he said corolla is better I should have asked better for you or me.
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    Most likely. More service consumables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    Most likely. More service consumables.
    +1 - the Taxi drivers like the Prius in my part of the country. Apparently the reliability and economy are the winning features. I read some stuff from US where they said the battery packs are lasting better than expected and the older Prius's are now over 10 years old and very few issues with battery packs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FIVEDOOR View Post
    +1 - the Taxi drivers like the Prius in my part of the country. Apparently the reliability and economy are the winning features. I read some stuff from US where they said the battery packs are lasting better than expected and the older Prius's are now over 10 years old and very few issues with battery packs.
    Taxi driver I rode with liked his the Prius but complained that his car was off the road for a while as he had a faulty battery and a new one had to come from Japan. Seemed unlikely to me. My son had a very early trial one from his work and they all hated it. It was always last car to go out. Perhaps later ones are better. The main complaint was starting sequence being involved. Motor turning off at the traffic stops. They were environmentalists' too. As I said perhaps later ones have over come the early complaints. I bought a Latitude diesel mainly to reduce running costs. But still like my petrol slurpers.

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    The hybrids I've driven in the past have always indicated on the funky powertrain display that on the freeway its only using the petrol engine, so the electric side of the hybrid mainly comes into its own around town.
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