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    I'm back with another basic question.
    It looks like I might be able to sneak the engine out on a floor jack, without releasing the t/a.
    Is that the case?

    I just need it out to detail it, and the engine bay.

    TIA, Alan

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    Quote Originally Posted by facelnut View Post
    I'm back with another basic question.
    It looks like I might be able to sneak the engine out on a floor jack, without releasing the t/a.
    Is that the case?

    I just need it out to detail it, and the engine bay.

    TIA, Alan

    Progress report, if anyone is interested:

    I've been making decent progress on the Resort Special. My buddy fabbed and replaced (with my "help") the recessed floors. I hope to have a link to some pics soon.

    Got new Micky ZX following the good suggestions here. I did order from Summit, they sell Coker tires with no tax or shipping in the US, so that was great.

    Fresh rubber transformed the car, it did need an alignment. It's a project to get the 4CV on my tire guy's alignment rack (car is too narrow). Since the only easy adjustment is toe, I did it myself with strings/jack stands. Worked a treat. It's really fun to drive.

    Winter is setting in here, so it's a perfect time to be in the shop. Just need to fix a couple of leaks, check the clutch disc, clean and paint. The car arrived with the wicker seats already done, so then it's time for paint and chrome.
    I'm not sure of the answer to the question but wonder why you'd want to do this.

    In my view, the easiest way to get the engine out is to detach the rear cross-member (supporting the suspension & transaxle & attached to welded in brackets on the two longitudinal chassis members on the sides) & rear engine mounts (& a few other minor connections) & then hoist the rear of the body & wheel the whole assembly out.

    Others' advice might differ.

    cheers! Peter
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    Quote Originally Posted by facelnut View Post
    I'm back with another basic question.
    It looks like I might be able to sneak the engine out on a floor jack, without releasing the t/a.
    Is that the case?

    I just need it out to detail it, and the engine bay. TIA, Alan
    Hi facelnut,
    Well back in the good old days when I was invincible and no sense, I changed a couple of those engines with a rope around my shoulders and just lifted them out So they come out OK on their own. I am damm sure I would not do it like that now so a trolley jack would seem to be OK if that is what you want to do. A trolley jack with a suitable cradle, eg a transmission mounting and some wood blocks fitted would handle it I think.

    Cheers Jaahn

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4cvg View Post
    I'm not sure of the answer to the question but wonder why you'd want to do this.


    cheers! Peter
    I guess just because it seems more conventional, eg VW, Fiat 500, 600 etc.

    As I think about it now, I'm leaning towards pulling the complete package.

    Jaahn, I take it you have done it both ways, what would you, or others recommend?

    Thanks, as always, Alan

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    Quote Originally Posted by facelnut View Post
    I guess just because it seems more conventional, eg VW, Fiat 500, 600 etc.

    As I think about it now, I'm leaning towards pulling the complete package.

    Jaahn, I take it you have done it both ways, what would you, or others recommend?

    Thanks, as always, Alan
    I've also done it with ropes and a friend, with blocks of wood underneath to avoid dropping the engine completely. So, yes it is possible to do just the engine removal. When just needing to change a clutch, for example, I've done that in the past. I'd do that again for a clutch maybe but now have a strong roof and would prefer to lift the body off the whole assembly with a chain block.

    So, I actually agree with Peter, especially for detailing. Better to take the whole thing out and tidy up everything. You can replace the four rubber mounting blocks for the transaxle while you are at it.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by facelnut View Post
    I guess just because it seems more conventional, eg VW, Fiat 500, 600 etc.

    As I think about it now, I'm leaning towards pulling the complete package.

    Jaahn, I take it you have done it both ways, what would you, or others recommend?

    Thanks, as always, Alan
    Hi Alan
    It is about 45 years ago since I did that stuff so its not exactly in my best recalled memories

    I would say, pull the whole package and then you can get at any body parts to paint and also the engine and transmission to detail as you like In those old days I did not own a garage or trolley jack etc to start with, so that was the major reason for doing it the way I did.

    Both 4CVg and JohnW recommend that too

    Cheers John

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    I've also done it with ropes and a friend, with blocks of wood underneath to avoid dropping the engine completely. So, yes it is possible to do just the engine removal. When just needing to change a clutch, for example, I've done that in the past. I'd do that again for a clutch maybe but now have a strong roof and would prefer to lift the body off the whole assembly with a chain block.

    So, I actually agree with Peter, especially for detailing. Better to take the whole thing out and tidy up everything. You can replace the four rubber mounting blocks for the transaxle while you are at it.

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    +1 take the whole thing out.

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    Back in the day, I used an old lawn mower chassis (motor removed) with an old tyre on top to "catch" the motor when I pulled it off the bell housing, then I lifted the rear end (of the car) and wheeled the motor out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daffyduck View Post
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    Exactly. Do you really want that fibreglass device, or can I have it next time we pass through LA?



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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Exactly. Do you really want that fibreglass device, or can I have it next time we pass through LA?



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    Quote Originally Posted by daffyduck View Post
    Surely you jest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daffyduck View Post
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    Not quite; I left the wheels on.

    cheers! Peter

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    Thanks so much everyone.
    I'm convinced.

    Cheers, Alan

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