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    Hi all,

    I thought I would share my latest acquisition.

    My original assessment had been that it was way too far rusted for anythign other than beign a parts donor car. The guy wouldn't let me take it out of his dark sheda nd driveway and into the light of the street so it looked pretty grim. Obviosuly I couldn't drive it either.

    One I got it home and in the sunlight I gave it second assessment, then when I blew the cobwebs out of it in what was once a quiet street I gave it a third assessment, and I've somewhat changed my tune. The majority of the rust is in the "bolt on" parts of the doors, guards and bonnet in the usual locations, but the sills are probably the worst rusted parts.

    So no rash decisions have been made and nothing will happen with this overnight, it'll remain as car porn for a while until I do some rust investigation.

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    In the mean time, watch this space for eventual updates and the inevitable questions that will come as I've only ever had 12's and don't know much about the 17's aside from teh mechanicals (my 12 is 17 powered).

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    Gee that looks alright , the later 74 on model.. Definitely worth repairing. What are the mecahanicals and interior like?
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    +1. That looks great and such a nice colour too!

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    One of the best 15/17 colours, in addition to lemon yellow and prune metallic.

    15/17 can be quite nasty for rust, everything goes inside out. So check the front chassis rails at the sides. Rust in the sills usually isn't obvious as the sill steel is quite thick, but they can rust from the plenum chamber leaking, which then fills the A-pillar (check for rust bubbles/holes with the door open at the base of the A-pillar), then rusting out the top of the sill (all unseen) before filling the sills with water from blocked drain holes.

    I'm hoping it is all an easy fix, as it looks quite smart as it is.
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    Good on you, I had a look at the car some time ago, just looked to be way too much work for the money. Mind you we did get down to a fair price but in the end, just couldn't do it.

    Look forward to seeing the car come back to life. Loved colour !

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    So you saw first hand what I did then. I wrote it off as scrap straight away and actually ended up getting it for a realistic price considering that, but the closer inspection revealed the rust not to be too bad. I mean its pretty damn bad, but the rails and pillars all appear to be good and the good old magnet test in combo with a torch and a mirror indicated that the file marks and cracking paint/filler on the rear quarter are from a car park style run in with a bollard and not a big impact. The real test will be getting the carpets out and the guards off to assess it properly. After that it'll either be reach out to find some new doors and guards or reach out for other restorers who need parts, hopefully searching for new panels.
    And here I was thinking I was buying the means to completion of a current project!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3006882 View Post
    So you saw first hand what I did then. I wrote it off as scrap straight away and actually ended up getting it for a realistic price considering that, but the closer inspection revealed the rust not to be too bad. I mean its pretty damn bad, but the rails and pillars all appear to be good and the good old magnet test in combo with a torch and a mirror indicated that the file marks and cracking paint/filler on the rear quarter are from a car park style run in with a bollard and not a big impact. The real test will be getting the carpets out and the guards off to assess it properly. After that it'll either be reach out to find some new doors and guards or reach out for other restorers who need parts, hopefully searching for new panels.
    And here I was thinking I was buying the means to completion of a current project!
    When it came on the market, I called and the photos were sent...I thought for the money must be good, drove up with the intention of buying it....but couldn't get over the amount of work it needed, the owner didn't have a grip on what it was worth.
    Did you get the spares, wheels bonnet etc....he had them in his garage, When I looked inside all I could see we're how much this was going to cost to be fixed, just couldn't bring myself to doing it.

    I really hope it works out,,would love to see it back on the road. This car re ignighted my love of the 17... So for me the search continues ...I have one iron in the fire.....but need to go see it first, time hasn't been on my side so hope to do that in a few weeks.

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    Oh yeah, still had ideas of a $1k heap being worth $12k with $2k of a bog and paint job. I got the wheels and bonnet and spare screens, so for me, even if it does turn out to be way too far gone, it's still a worthwhile investment to transfer mechanicals into my 12 and give the rest to someone who can use it in a 17 resto. But let's hope it doesn't come to that.
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    And to think, 3 years ago all this rust free and alloy stuff when for scrap metal for $50

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    WTF! I must have blinked at that time. Sorry I missed it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3006882 View Post
    Hi all,

    I thought I would share my latest acquisition.

    My original assessment had been that it was way too far rusted for anythign other than beign a parts donor car. The guy wouldn't let me take it out of his dark sheda nd driveway and into the light of the street so it looked pretty grim. Obviosuly I couldn't drive it either.

    One I got it home and in the sunlight I gave it second assessment, then when I blew the cobwebs out of it in what was once a quiet street I gave it a third assessment, and I've somewhat changed my tune. The majority of the rust is in the "bolt on" parts of the doors, guards and bonnet in the usual locations, but the sills are probably the worst rusted parts.

    So no rash decisions have been made and nothing will happen with this overnight, it'll remain as car porn for a while until I do some rust investigation.

    In the mean time, watch this space for eventual updates and the inevitable questions that will come as I've only ever had 12's and don't know much about the 17's aside from teh mechanicals (my 12 is 17 powered).

    Also, I'll welcome any tips of advice about the 17... I've already noted "DON'T SCRAP IT!!!" in advance Click image for larger version. 

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    I thought i would would add a photo of my R17 TL which I have owned for about 7 yrs and have saved it from the wreckers. I plan to keep it forever mainly because driving it gives me so much pleasure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by driven View Post
    And to think, 3 years ago all this rust free and alloy stuff when for scrap metal for $50

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    Aaarghhh!!!
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    Not only is that the best colour I've ever seen on the R17, but one of most favourite car colours.

    Lucky I didn't see that car for sale.
    I've had a very lazy eye out for a R17ts since they were newish cars.
    If you decide it's all too much and want to move it on, let me know please.
    Would make a great stable mate to my fuego.
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    I would be extremely disappointed if it was wrecked no matter how much work. Having said that I am looking for complete injection set for my 17TS which unfortunately was converted to Webers before I got it. I currently have that one on the road as my daily driver. I have a complete set of injection but that is for my 17Gordini which awaits major major rust repairs. My R15 is registered but currently undergoing mechanical repairs and really needs new paint.
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    Love the car mate - please keep it and do not take it to the wreckers. There are far too few out there now.
    They are such a cool car and get heads turning in the streets, which is always fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deja vu 25 View Post
    Love the car mate - please keep it and do not take it to the wreckers. There are far too few out there now.
    They are such a cool car and get heads turning in the streets, which is always fun.
    Hi fellow froggers
    i drive my R 17 mostly on weekends into Bunbury ( which is about 10km from where I live ) and it never ceases to amaze me the attention I get from other drivers on the roads. Mostly the looks I get but very often I get the thumbs up, or my dad had one of them. I wonder how many stories are out there of other R17 owners?
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    From memory there were only 1800 R1317's (Gordini/TS) made in hardtop form. And 1100 R1327 with electric soft top sunroof. What is the number on yours? Many that have survived have had the fuel injection replaced with carbys. You are lucky you have it complete some bits are easy to get but some are almost unobtainium. But there were quite a few makes with the same system. Usually only a small daughter board in the computer and the injectors were specific to a given model. Bosch has remade the injectors for the 17 a few years back, but at a cost.

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    That's a great looking car,I like the color. I really miss my yellow 17TS. Sold it to a guy in Perth a few years ago and often wonder how it's going.

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    Here's a photo of my injection set up (thanks Angru). Goes like stink now. It's running in the Mt Tarrangower Hillclimb in Victoria this weekend and I can't wait.
    I might be biased but I love the colour of my car :-)
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    Last time I took the 17 on the freeway a young gentleman of Mediteranean decent pulled up beside me on the freeway in his fully sick Nissan Skyline. Tooted his horn and gave me a big smile and a thumbs up. Just another reason that all the work was worth it.
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    Mine is number 0249. We actually have a sneaking suspicion that it is the old race/company car of a friend of my dads from when he had his renault dealership. Apparently it has a little mod in the box that will tell us, but I won't be seeing the inside of that for a while (fingers crossed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3006882 View Post
    Mine is number 0249. We actually have a sneaking suspicion that it is the old race/company car of a friend of my dads from when he had his renault dealership. Apparently it has a little mod in the box that will tell us, but I won't be seeing the inside of that for a while (fingers crossed).
    My Grey R17TS - still with the EFI is 0265. I love the car. Yeah I wondered if there were any interchangeable parts - especially with the injection and sensors etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by G4ME View Post
    Here's a photo of my injection set up (thanks Angru). Goes like stink now. It's running in the Mt Tarrangower Hillclimb in Victoria this weekend and I can't wait.
    I might be biased but I love the colour of my car :-)
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    Last time I took the 17 on the freeway a young gentleman of Mediteranean decent pulled up beside me on the freeway in his fully sick Nissan Skyline. Tooted his horn and gave me a big smile and a thumbs up. Just another reason that all the work was worth it.
    What tweaks have you made to the injection system? My car is running rough at the moment, so in a process of testing all components and sensors.
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    check plugs & avoid letting the car idle for to long. check points did you find the bar for tuning the engine over use it as it will take a lot of strain of the gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dav17ts View Post
    check plugs & avoid letting the car idle for to long. check points did you find the bar for tuning the engine over use it as it will take a lot of strain of the gears.
    Hi David
    Yes checking plugs regularly. Also found the bar under the rear seat - very handy indeed.
    Could be that I am just used to the more modern EFI cars nowadays. It is running well, just seems to be a bit rough and as if it is running on 3 cyls sometimes. Points seem fine, so might do the timing when I get half hour or so.
    Had a great run to Gundaroo last weekend, such a pleasure to drive.
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    Don't forget the R17ts has a high lift cam so when idleing or slow it will seem rough. About the only other thing I can think of is get the cold start injector serviced.
    Thanks
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