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    Greetings to the Renault Cognoscenti!
    My 1st post here.
    Behold my next project! After that lump of a Land Rover I did last, my dodgy back will appreciate something substantially lighter.
    This car has done only 40K miles. In 1984 in Tasmania it got a significant hit passenger side front & has been off the road since with the prev owner/s accruing a big haul of bits inc all I need to repair it. The interior is amazing right down the cream coloured floor matting. (WTF were they thinking??) The steering wheel is sad but I have another but in black/white.
    My plan is to renovate the hydraulics then get the motor running & drive it around our paddocks (don't stress they're quite smooth) to assess it's mech cond.
    Then once mobile I can get on & off a trailer easily & off to the body shop to get it stretched back into shape- the passenger bonnet mounts are ~ 50mm behind t'other side. The eagle-eyed may have notice the weird camber on the passenger front wheel. It looks like the stub axle is bent. I have 2 others but they are for disc brakes. Can I just swap the drum brake hub over?
    Once straight, I'll start to prep for a sympathetic re-spray. It has a real early 60's patina which I think is worth preserving and which would be lost in a full nut & bolt resto.


    An important question: source of spares? I found this place:

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    I don't know if these are any better, but I have bought a fair quantity of parts with all of them with good results.

    Melun Retro Passion, Neo Retro, and Mecaparts, all in France.

    My wife has an early Dauphine G in nice condition. Her father rebuilt the motor last year, and it is a cheerful little car, albeit a little slow on big hills. The straight cut non synchro first gear sounds like grinding rocks on all of them as best I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geodon View Post
    It looks like the stub axle is bent. I have 2 others but they are for disc brakes. Can I just swap the drum brake hub over?
    Are the spare stub axles for a ball joint front end (R8/10) or a king pin front end (as originally fitted to the Dauphine G)? They don't interchange.
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    Thnx Simon. I was TOLD by the PO that they are from a Dauphine that was disc braked ex-factory- ex South Africa??
    I'm in the sticks ATM but will photograph them & post.
    I had a quick look & they looked the same (i.e. didn't have ball joints) except for the part that rotates.
    BTW congrats on owning the BEST of the VW beetles. That 1300 motor was a beauty. Lengthening the stroke was just what that wheezy 1200 preceding it needed. No wonder the Formula Vee's loved 'em!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan moore View Post
    I don't know if these are any better, but I have bought a fair quantity of parts with all of them with good results.

    Melun Retro Passion, Neo Retro, and Mecaparts, all in France.

    My wife has an early Dauphine G in nice condition. Her father rebuilt the motor last year, and it is a cheerful little car, albeit a little slow on big hills. The straight cut non synchro first gear sounds like grinding rocks on all of them as best I can tell.
    Ah yes! A reviewer, who was obviously very unkind, once claimed the best way to measure a Dauphine's acceleration was with a calender.
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    "geodon",
    The reviewer was American, and what do Americans know about cars ???? They can normally only go in straight lines or roundy-roundy. And take one hell of a lot of work to go around corners and stop quickly.

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    Simon!

    It looks like I'm in luck!

    If you look you can see the bolt pattern to take a drum brake backing plate.

    I won't be certain until I try to put the hub on but it's promising.

    Of course I'm assuming the wishbones aren't bent :-)
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    I got it going. Considering it was last reg 1984 it took very little- a good omen?? Using a gravity powered interim fuel supply, I pumped out the tank, the contents of which were very interesting.

    Heater hoses perished so I put in a bypass. Rad hoses drip but will do for testing etc.

    The float needle valve was stuck open do I took off the top (Solex 28PIBT?) to fix it & promptly cross-threaded the hot air inlet. Merde! Does anyone know what that thread is so I can clean it up with a tap? I was glad to see a fair dinkum auto choke- the VW ones used a heat sensitive spring that got hot with time & had nothing to do with engine temp. In hot weather, it stayed on unnecessarily & if you turned on the ign & didn't start up, the choke turned off! Most of the time I adjusted them to "no choke" & relied on the accelerator pumps to prime it- a la early 356A Porsches.

    I still have no hydraulics but after tightening up the handbrake & clutch adjustments I felt confident enough to try it out in the big paddock. 1st gear was a bit noisy. Normal or do I have a problem? 2nd is a ripper- ! 3rd seems long legged & the paddock was too small for 4th. Some lovely clonking noises from the front ends but overall it was good. Instruments & idiot lights all worked good.

    I probably should do a compression wet/dry test. What sort of psi could I expect?

    I can now trailer it easily and so the next step is to consult the alignment specialists to find out why the front wheels are cross-eyed. It would be crazy to start sandblasting etc until I check for bent bits.
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    1962 Renault Dauphine Gordini (Resto project)
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