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    Hi All,

    I am busy with the Matra front brakes and it has the R16 calipers on. (factory spec) When I stripped it I noticed that they are exactly the same size as the R8/R10 pads but much thicker. I have never seen this before but I noticed there are a few available on Ebay. Can anybody help me with a few part numbers so that I can compare that numbers with Ebay numbers and buy the correct ones. It looks like they are about 12mm thick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    Hi All,

    I am busy with the Matra front brakes and it has the R16 calipers on. (factory spec) When I stripped it I noticed that they are exactly the same size as the R8/R10 pads but much thicker. I have never seen this before but I noticed there are a few available on Ebay. Can anybody help me with a few part numbers so that I can compare that numbers with Ebay numbers and buy the correct ones. It looks like they are about 12mm thick

    Thanks,

    Frans.
    Hi Fran,

    I'm not sure what pads R8/R10 run so I'll give you info on all R16 pads used and you can check. There were four types of calipers used on the R16 front. Bendix Type 11, Bendix Type 111, Bendix Type 111 AC & Girling. I've attatched photo's of each pad used.

    Pad thickness's are:
    Bendix Type 11 - 1st Assembly (1965) 12mm, 2nd Assembly (1966-1968) 14mm,
    Bendix Type 111 (1969 - 1980) (AC as well) - 16mm, and
    Girling - 14mm.

    Renault Part Numbers:
    Bendix Type 11, 1st Assembly - 09 96 074 700
    Bendix Type 11, 2nd Assembly - 09 96 047 100, 09 96 092 600, 09 96 116 900, 77 01 451 007
    Bendix Type 111 - 77 01 450 556, 77 01 457 086
    Bendix Type 111 AC - 77 01 200 247, 77 01 200 248
    Girling - 77 01 453 489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarosa View Post
    Hi Fran,

    I'm not sure what pads R8/R10 run so I'll give you info on all R16 pads used and you can check. There were four types of calipers used on the R16 front. Bendix Type 11, Bendix Type 111, Bendix Type 111 AC & Girling. I've attatched photo's of each.

    Pad thickness's are:
    Bendix Type 11 - 1st Assembly (1965) 12mm, 2nd Assembly (1966-1968) 14mm,
    Bendix Type 111 (1969 - 1980) (AC as well) - 16mm, and
    Girling - 14mm.

    Renault Part Numbers:
    Bendix Type 11, 1st Assembly - 09 96 074 700
    Bendix Type 11, 2nd Assembly - 09 96 047 100, 09 96 092 600, 09 96 116 900, 77 01 451 007
    Bendix Type 111 - 77 01 450 556, 77 01 457 086
    Bendix Type 111 AC - 77 01 200 247, 77 01 200 248
    Girling - 77 01 453 489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    Hi All,

    I am busy with the Matra front brakes and it has the R16 calipers on. (factory spec) When I stripped it I noticed that they are exactly the same size as the R8/R10 pads but much thicker. I have never seen this before but I noticed there are a few available on Ebay. Can anybody help me with a few part numbers so that I can compare that numbers with Ebay numbers and buy the correct ones. It looks like they are about 12mm thick

    Thanks,

    Frans.

    Basically what Sarosa is saying is that the first R16's sold here badged as 16 (not TL or TS) used these pads and they looked like larger R10.
    I have a few sets is stock at $20 each, This is what I believe Matra used.

    From about 69 when the TL and TS came they went to the more common type that looked like a thicker R12/17 pad
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    R16 pads

    Some pad numbers

    Bendix caliper D-144 (not DB) 1968-'72
    Girling caliper DB-78
    Girlock ? DB-36
    Girling DB-270

    Can't find the detailed list at moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post
    Basically what Sarosa is saying is that the first R16's sold here badged as 16 (not TL or TS) used these pads and they looked like larger R10.
    I have a few sets is stock at $20 each, This is what I believe Matra used.

    From about 69 when the TL and TS came they went to the more common type that looked like a thicker R12/17 pad
    Am I that long winded?! :-). Yes basically it looks like your matra runs early Bendix Type 11 Calipers and Brakes. (4 springs hold down the pad clamps). I'd ignore the part numbers ebay sellars quote as they more than not get them wrong. As Dave say's they were run on early R1150 R16's, but only up to Chassis 335703. Later R1150's (69-71) changed over to the Bendix 111 type when the TS was released and the new fatter rim introduced. (on all TL/TS's). Dave I'll take a pair too if there are any left after Frans.

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    Thanks for all the info. Yes they look like the ones in the first picture in Sarosa's thread. That is with the 4 springs and all.

    And thanks David, I'll take a set.

    Ill send you a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    Thanks for all the info. Yes they look like the ones in the first picture in Sarosa's thread. That is with the 4 springs and all.

    And thanks David, I'll take a set.

    Ill send you a PM.

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    Yep no worries. My computer says there's 4 in stock so 1 for Frans and 2 for Sarosa. I'd better check first, you all know what my computer system is like. If it says 4 in stock the truth is either none or 8.
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