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    Hi All,

    Anyone bought a Renault Koleos recently and care to share what price they negotiated? What dealer did you have the best experience with and what extras did you get / didn't get. I'm in Melbourne.

    The Bose special edition and 0% finance looks tempting!

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    Hi hazmatic,
    Whichever model Koleos you decide to buy at whatever price, just go ahead and do it! You won't regret it because the Koleos is one of the most undersold and underrated SUV's currently available here in its price bracket. I bought the base model 2WD petrol 'Expression' with CVT and 'pearl' finish, in March this year and am still amazed with the thing, its wonderful drivability and all it's features and benefits, even in this modest basic model, including sat-nav, bluetooth etc, the list is long, every time I drive it. Regrettably I missed out on 'sweeteners' like 0% finance and no-cost or low-cost servicing. A three-week paid holiday to France would have been nice too!
    I probably paid 'list' price ($31K) but after trade-in ended up with a figure that I could live with. I was offered a 'demo' Dynamique with low mileage and more 'fruit' like leather seats, automatic handbrake, wipers and headlights, and other stuff for just $2000 extra, which was almost irresistable. Alas, I did not like the colour, nor did I really want all that automatic stuff that could lead to potential problems at some stage. Besides, I am lucky that I am as yet not too feeble to turn on my headlights and wipers, or manually engage the handbrake. Also, I preferred cloth seats because leather seats become uncomfortably 'sticky' in the humidity of the sub-tropics. The ultimate 'kicker' for me however was Renault's unique 5x5x5 'peace-of-mind' offer, that is: 5 star safety, 5 year warranty and 5 year free roadside assist anywhere in Australia. Any manufacturer who has the confidence in their product to offer that level of backing, has my vote.
    You can of course escalate your choice of model, and the price you pay, to the ultimate status symbol, including 4WD, diesel, sunroof, Bose sound, leather, etc, etc and pay accordingly. It's your choice.
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    Breitie do you work for Renault? You sound like a sales person lol. I can see you're very happy with your car, thanks for the reply! I'll be testing driving one this weekend and I'll see how it goes.

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    I'll sell you one in Wollongong hazmatic...?

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    Wollongong is a bit far I live in Melbourne

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    Well hazmatic, you asked!
    You got it in one: so far I am happy with my Renault-Nissan-Samsung-QM5-Koleos.
    It would be nice if more Australians discover this fine vehicle so that I feel less lonely.
    But for that to happen the Koleos story will have to be told better than it has been.
    When you have your Koleos, don't forget to register above. Then there will be five of us!
    Good luck with your purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breitie View Post
    Well hazmatic, you asked!
    You got it in one: so far I am happy with my Renault-Nissan-Samsung-QM5-Koleos.
    It would be nice if more Australians discover this fine vehicle so that I feel less lonely.
    But for that to happen the Koleos story will have to be told better than it has been.
    When you have your Koleos, don't forget to register above. Then there will be five of us!
    Good luck with your purchase.
    Round my way there are heaps of them.....However, most that I see are driven by senior citizens's parents or soccer mums, and neither group is likely to get onto a car forum and talk about their mules.

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    Bertie, just to cheer you up. Koloes sales are currently 100% on 2011. Will hit the 1000 mark this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    Round my way there are heaps of them.....However, most that I see are driven by senior citizens's parents or soccer mums, and neither group is likely to get onto a car forum and talk about their mules.

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    Wow! 1000 sales per year! The Captiva, ix35, Tiguan, Rav4, CX5 etc people must be shivering in their boots.
    The demographic you mention (derisively perhaps?) buy more compact SUV's than any other, making this by far the fastest growing and most successful market segment. So, why don't they buy more Koleos's? I believe the answer is obvious. Clue: Opel.

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    Recently, I was in the market for a smaller SUV and I have to admit the Koleos was the best of the bunch. It was easily the most responsive and best to drive by far. The only reason I didn't buy it was the fact that my son's wheel chair went in better in another, the name of which I am embarrassed to admit. Fortunately, I don't often get to drive it.

    So, if you want a 'driver's' suv, buy a Koleos. And yes, I am a Senior!

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    Bertie
    a 1000 sales is a big step for renault trying to build brand presence. The x-trail sells a 1000 a month essentially, same for the captiva, rav4 and i35. You need to put things in context ie renault commands approx 0.35% of monthly new sales across the board.

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    It is strange that the Koleos is so unpopular and the X-Trail is very popular. They share the same drive train and chassis and priced very closely. Maybe it's because the Koleos is built in Korea and X-Trail in Japan. Most people prefer Japanese built over Korean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair Browne View Post
    So, if you want a 'driver's' suv, buy a Koleos. And yes, I am a Senior!
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    It's surprising to hear you call the Koleos a driver's car! Most reviews I've read say it is a comfortable, soft, and unexciting drive; they mostly rate the Tiguan as the best handling suv.
    Anyway if I wanted a "driver's car" I would buy something else entirely. Comfortable and soft is exactly what I want from my suv.

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    Don't believe what you read. Go test it yourself. I compared it with RAV4, Forrester and Nissan Entrail

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmatic View Post
    It is strange that the Koleos is so unpopular and the X-Trail is very popular. They share the same drive train and chassis and priced very closely. Maybe it's because the Koleos is built in Korea and X-Trail in Japan. Most people prefer Japanese built over Korean.
    I bet most people wouldn't have a clue where either are built. Interestingly the Koleos came 4th in a Wheels small SUV mega-test. It was beaten by the Skoda Yeti, VW Tiguan, and Mazda CX5. They praised it's flexibility, and multiple cubby holes and the like. But they did say there was a big gap between 3rd and 4th. Still it beat the ix45, Ford Kuga, Captiva, and a few others.

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    nothing to do whether it is korean or japanese built. In fact, a irrelevant argument. Alot of the nissans and toyotas come from Thailand these days. Issue is branding presence i.e. renault has a product, but does not have the presence ie dealerships (25 aust wide) compared to hundreds for the big boys.

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    Just drove the koleos and I liked it. Steering was too light and driving position perhaps too high, but the interior is nice and the ride is comfortable. However the salesman was very firm on the price. Would only give me a $2000 discount on rrp. Last time I bought a new car I got $7000 discount easily. Considering this is the end of the year I was expecting a better price. I will shop around.

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    Private Message me with the Spec, if you've got a trade and I'll truck it down from Wollongong. I could VIC Rego it for you if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmatic View Post
    Just drove the koleos and I liked it. Steering was too light and driving position perhaps too high, but the interior is nice and the ride is comfortable. However the salesman was very firm on the price. Would only give me a $2000 discount on rrp. Last time I bought a new car I got $7000 discount easily. Considering this is the end of the year I was expecting a better price. I will shop around.
    One thing to do, is check out carpoint (or carsales, I think they're the same thing), and search used cars for sale. One of the options in there is 'Brand New cars in stock'. It basically gives the prices dealers are advertising at. When I was looking at a new car, I found a Fiesta at $4000 off the price Ford was advertising on TV. Well worth the drive. Having said that they valued my trade-in at $3000 less than another dealer. At least it will give you an idea about how good the price you're quoted is. But with the 0% finance going at the moment, it doesn't seem like Renault dealers are doing much better than free on-roads.

    In the end I decided to study full-time and down-trade, which is how I got my Renault, and definitely haven't looked back on that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmatic View Post
    Just drove the koleos and I liked it. Steering was too light and driving position perhaps too high,
    Is it possible for the driving position of a suv to be too high? I thought the whole idea was to be up high, obscuring everyone else's view.
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    I had people come in (yes i am a sales manger for a renault dealership) all set to buy Honda's new CRV from our honda guys. on walking past asked if they should look at anything ewlse before putting pen to paper. pointed out Koleos ...well lets just say they didnt make it over to honda showroom. Drove the Koleos and phoned back in the morning to put pen to paper on a new Koleos.
    Their reasons. Value for money, better drive, better support (warranty) and a classy looking car then both X Trail and CRV. The BOSE system was also a winner in their eyes.
    I also bought a koleos for a family car 5 mths ago and it is a great family car and has done everything we have wanted so far
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    I like what I read here! Seems that some astute SUV buyers recognise the value of the Koleos at last. 'Drivers' car? What is that exactly? As I see it, every driver is different and has unique and subjective requirements and preferences. According to those self-important w*****s who write reviews for car magazines, every vehicle has to perform like a Porsche 911 to be a 'drivers car' and get their approval. I tried and tested every other compact SUV and kept coming back to the Koleos. But then I carefully look at the detail, like the cheap carpet padding in the wheel arches of the CX5, or the rear lights that protrude into the loading area and could be easily damaged, not to mention those flimsy plastic wheel arch liners that are all the rage on most SUV's now - I have seen a few where these have come off already- and stuff like the lit and cooled glove box and heaps of other features in the Koloes that the average car buyer would not be aware of. 'Drivers' car, my a..e! Those who want a sports car, should buy the Megane RS or something. They are clearly in a different market.

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    I still find it hard to consider any 1.5 or 2 tonne vehicle that sits so far off the road that you climb up into it as a drivers car. Some obviously have a use for a 4WD - a lot of them however specialise in drinking copious amounts of resources sitting in traffic jams while ferrying the kids to school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2353 View Post
    I still find it hard to consider any 1.5 or 2 tonne vehicle that sits so far off the road that you climb up into it as a drivers car. Some obviously have a use for a 4WD - a lot of them however specialise in drinking copious amounts of resources sitting in traffic jams while ferrying the kids to school.
    I would have thought the the Koleos would be as much of a drivers as the Grand Scenic. Which has a mass of around 1500kg and pushing to produce 100kw.

    10km/L isn't too flash for fuel economy either for a little 4 cylinder. Most of the Jap 3L V6s match that or do a bit better.

    Something about glass houses and stones.

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    Interesting.

    What defines a sporting vehicle?
    And how much is copious?

    How many people who comment about a particular vehicle have actually sat in, or heaven forbid, driven the vehicle?

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