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    Quote Originally Posted by R1063 View Post
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    I did not understand?

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    sorry, I mean I am interested in your discussion
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1063 View Post
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    It's a kitee, with many authentic pieces, I think since the owner you know, I also know as many parts have been purchased from them ;-)
    Very nice. Maybe you know the owner of R1063 oval plate #70?

    What brakes are you using? I can recommend spider wheel Dauphine if you can find the parts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
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    Is yours a genuine R1063 or "kitee"?
    Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 'kitee'?
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    As far as I know, Renault made exactly 80 R1063 cars. They also sold the "go fast" parts separately and many R1062 cars were upgraded to R1063 specifications by bolting on some or all of the parts that were for sale. These were the "kitee" cars, i.e. upgrade kit cars. Probably there were far more kitee cars than 80.
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    sorry, I mean I am interested in your discussion

    no problem, one does not preclude the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Very nice. Maybe you know the owner of R1063 oval plate #70?

    What brakes are you using? I can recommend spider wheel Dauphine if you can find the parts!

    Amicalement.

    Yes I know the 70, I have drums front of dauphine 35 mm with frets of cooling aluminium
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 'kitee'?
    a 4cv kitee is a modified 'normal' 4cv
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    A french independent distributor was selling Renault parts? including the 1063 kits, this company was called the SAPRAR, we know not the number of kit sold at the time, a single 4cv from a french friend / Belgian is equipped with. regarding my 4cv, it took me 10 years of research to find the parts I was looking for to claim to have a replica that it faithfully authentic R1063 close
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1063 View Post
    Yes I know the 70, I have drums front of dauphine 35 mm with frets of cooling aluminium
    Very nice. I fitted those brakes on my car - but it took a long time to find the parts. Eventually Jean-Pierre Delaunoy had the front drums and I found rear drums in Australia.

    I saw the #70 at the great Lozenge Passion International event at Montlhery - lovely car and very nice owner. I was there in May 2016. It was a wonderful weekend! Were you there?
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    Trying to find those parts in Australia would be almost impossible. There were at least 3 R1063 that came to Australia and they were not from the 80 originals. They came in mid 1950,s and so were probably kitee cars but who made them? That is the question. They were advertised for sale as new cars so whether they were assembled from parts in Australia or France is not known although the advertisement does say they were imported from France. They had speedo's in kilometres per hour at the time Australian cars were in miles per hour.They were used in competition so many were heavily modified and at least one was rolled and written off. Back in 1961 I bought the head and cam shaft for a race car I had at the time. The engine had been enlarged to 904cc. But was worn out and I had a 850 cc liners and so didn't buy the engine. I really needed to buy the 5 speed gearbox but didn't have enough money as the guy wanted 200 pounds. Equivalent to more than 12 weeks wages for an adult mechanic at the time. The car I am replicating was also a kittee car and little is known about it although it was 904cc and had a 5 speed gearbox. With Autobleu exhaust etc. It had a two barrel down draft 40mm Solex carby put on side ways to stop fuel starvation on sharp bends. One of the period articles does say that the 4 speed Dauphine Gordini box that was available later was faster than the 5 speed because of the need to continuously double the clutch on the 5 speed. I did find one owner of one and he left the car behind a garage in canberra but the garage was sold to developers and the old cars all went to the dump. The location is now flats. No one remembers the oval plate numbers of the Australian cars unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Very nice. I fitted those brakes on my car - but it took a long time to find the parts. Eventually Jean-Pierre Delaunoy had the front drums and I found rear drums in Australia.

    I saw the #70 at the great Lozenge Passion International event at Montlhery - lovely car and very nice owner. I was there in May 2016. It was a wonderful weekend! Were you there?
    Yes I was also, we were a large number of the 4cv, a beautiful day, you saw the 4cv "CINZANO"? Jean-Pierre is out of my relationship in the world of the 4cv, surely one of the largest specialist!

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    It's sad this sunroof, 1063 4cv are rare!
    and that you kept? the AC you have?

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    Here is a picture of the 4cv 1063 No. 70 and mine, at montlhery in may 2016, guess what the No. 70 ?


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    The one on the right? I am choosing this because of the more oval shape of the additional air vents. I was thinking at one time to replicate these on my modified 4CV.
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    My guess. No. 70 has painted engine cover hinges. Your car has them chrome plated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1063 View Post
    Here is a picture of the 4cv 1063 No. 70 and mine, at montlhery in may 2016, guess what the No. 70 ?


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    Ha. I have photographs of your car and engine! It was a wonderful day....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    My guess. No. 70 has painted engine cover hinges. Your car has them chrome plated.
    From my photos, it is the other way around!! Mr R1063's car is very nice but, as it happened, we did not meet.

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    Yes John an unforgettable day, but me car at the time had just been back from the engine and the Interior has changed a lot.
    Actually Alan, no. 70 is right, yet the grids are identical, the photo is misleading.
    Sunroof, no. 70 has hinges chrome, which is not necessarily true on the R1063 at that time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1063 View Post
    Yes John an unforgettable day, but me car at the time had just been back from the engine and the Interior has changed a lot.
    Actually Alan, no. 70 is right, yet the grids are identical, the photo is misleading.
    Sunroof, no. 70 has hinges chrome, which is not necessarily true on the R1063 at that time!
    Sorry I missed speaking to you! It was wonderful for me to be there from Australia, thanks to Jean-Pierre Delaunoy's help.
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    Yes really a pity that we have not meet!

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    but we can catch up, you know I also have my forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1063 View Post
    Yes I was also, we were a large number of the 4cv, a beautiful day, you saw the 4cv "CINZANO"? Jean-Pierre is out of my relationship in the world of the 4cv, surely one of the largest specialist!
    Ah yes. I saw the Cinzano! A beautiful day it was.....
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    Yes, fred the owner of the CINZANO put it on sale a few months ago.
    You tell me come in France to may with your club, what's your route, can pass you by from home?

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