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    I am fitting an oil cooler with thermostat on to my Lotus Europa so I need to find a shorter oil filter because of chassis clearance problems. The WIX 51335 appears to fit the bill at about 2.5 inches high. Does anyone have knowledge of these or of another suitable short oil filter?
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    Hi Ron

    I use Mann W77 oil filters. I have just measured a filter and it is 60mm high.

    These filters are made in Germany, I have also use Wix filters before and never had a problem. Hope this helps.
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    Thanks Col - The Mann looks good.
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    i have Wix WL7168.
    check this out for a whole world of equivalents!

    http://www.partsbase.net/part/wix-wl7168

    the height on the Wix WL7168 is 70mm, and that fits nicely.
    the 51335 is really short at 60mm.
    i note the above list reckons the Mann W914/2 is the go.

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    I don't remember seeing an oil cooler on your car, Alexander? The mounting block for the thermostat and cooler takes up around 35mm of the space available so I was thinking that a 60mm or thereabouts tall filter would fit. I haven't done any measurements - just eyeballing (looks like I have just over 100mm in total) so I don't know if 70mm is doable. What do you think?
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    Hi Ron

    Your other option is to fit a remote oil filter, but that requires some extra plumbing, just a thought.
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    Hi Ron,
    Have you thought of using a remote filter. I have used them on many occasions when the area becomes confined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murramor View Post
    I don't remember seeing an oil cooler on your car, Alexander? The mounting block for the thermostat and cooler takes up around 35mm of the space available so I was thinking that a 60mm or thereabouts tall filter would fit. I haven't done any measurements - just eyeballing (looks like I have just over 100mm in total) so I don't know if 70mm is doable. What do you think?
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    ron, i must be missing something . no i dont have an oil cooler. the oil filter on my car bolts on the rhs of the motor, between the frame and the motor. i previously found ryco R71 would just fit, but that is 79mm tall. the 70mm ones fit fine. but perhaps your car is laid out differently and i have never noticed!

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    Col and Ray
    I really did want to use a remote filter but I couldn't get my head around how to do this combined with a thermostat. It seems to me that the oil would only flow through the filter when the thermostat was open unless one somehow used completely separate circuits for the cooler and filter. This would mean 4 pipes and a convoluted flow system for the oil. I haven't seen such a setup although I have seen many 3 pipe systems which combine the remote filter and cooler without the thermostat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander View Post
    ron, i must be missing something . no i dont have an oil cooler. the oil filter on my car bolts on the rhs of the motor, between the frame and the motor. i previously found ryco R71 would just fit, but that is 79mm tall. the 70mm ones fit fine. but perhaps your car is laid out differently and i have never noticed!
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    My car has the same layout as yours. To fit an oil cooler one has to fit a plate 35mm thick between the block and the oil filter, hence the space available for the filter shrinks by this amount. If there is less than (say) 105 mm clearance available, I am in trouble (35mm + 60mm plus space to thread the cooler on). I may have to dispense with the thermostat and mount a remote filter as suggested by Ray and Col.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murramor View Post
    Alexander
    (35mm + 60mm plus space to thread the cooler on).
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    oops I meant 'filter' not 'cooler' - oldtimers disease!

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    oh i see. i failed to read your first post properly!
    in that case, yes, i can see the problem. i found that the ryco Z71 filter (79mm tall) could only just be fitted between the chassis rail, so as to screw it on. so if you are moving the threaded part on which it fits out by 35mm, you will be needing a very short filter indeed. still, one of the 60mm tall ones might just scrape in?

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    Hi Ron,
    My 5c again. I remember a GUD/Ryco in South Africa, that was as short as 60mm, that was for a Volvo of the late '70s and early '80s . I used them on race engines, as they were the cheapest, and were only used for 1 race meeting. I presume you are using the thermostat unit similar to the R5 Alpine I am building at the moment, see attached. I am using a Z71 (?) on here.

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    Hi Ray
    As I still have time, last night I ordered 5 WIX filters from the US for $20. They are the 60mm ones and are actually listed as being for the R16. The sandwich plate I am using is the MOCAL one. That engine of yours is a beauty! I would love to have alloy pulleys on my engine but don't have the facilities or skills to make them myself. Do you know of a source for R16 ones?
    RonShort Oil Filter R16-mocal-sandwich-plate.jpg

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    Ray where did you source the adapters to mount the webers?

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    Hi Alexander,
    It came from Autobleu in Belgium, Jean-Yves Lardinois ([email protected]) , Do note it is for a Alpine/Gordini head. He gets from Meca Parts, but without any hassles and sometimes a bit cheaper. He posts via Belgium Parcel Priority, and it gets here about 7 days after cash is in the account.

    They need a bit of work to match ports and carbs, these I was a bit more greedy as the head had been ported before and I had 42mm Webers, so it took a bit more removal, but now they are Awesome.

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