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    http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2012...-208-gti-32235

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    Looks pretty good - but not due here until at least May next year, apparently.

    The best bit: look how easy those wheels are going to be to clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206 View Post
    Looks pretty good - but not due here until at least May next year, apparently.

    The best bit: look how easy those wheels are going to be to clean.
    Hopefully there'd be a selection to choose from from factory.

    I think the concept ones look horrid...for a car thats meant to bring GTi back.

    The 207 GTi rims were simple, classic looking. It works.

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    It should stop well enough - it has the same front brakes as our much heavier 308 Touring, even if the back brakes are smaller.

    The wheels look like they're trying too hard - just a bit too 'aftermarket' looking.

    The transition of the gauges on the binnacle to the centre console is also very clumsy - not much integration at all.

    But really - it's a GTi - how does it go ???? 1160Kg and 147Kw are nice numbers together !

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    Quote Originally Posted by N5GTi6 View Post
    It should stop well enough - it has the same front brakes as our much heavier 308 Touring
    Amazingly, it has the same brakes as the 207 GTi as well.
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    Looks like a Yaris. If they just kept the rear cleaner and simpler without all the 'added' curves it would be ok. Also agree on the wheels, looks like they cost 3$ and came from Jax. Makes the 207 look better.

    Little bit of promise about the way its going to 'go' and handle. Guess we will have to wait until may..

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    Agreed on the wheels. They look similar to the Toyota 86 / BRZ wheels which are also terrible.

    I wish modern hatches would look a little more squat and wide like the 205/306 era (ie less tall), but it is definitely a step up in looks from the 207 GTi IMO.
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    Thing is, it will still cost more than a BRZ/86 - which is arguably a better drivers car!
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    How would you know, the 208 GTi hasn't been released yet!
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    Thing is, it will still cost more than a BRZ/86 - which is arguably a better drivers car!

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    You'd have to be kidding - even the Polo GTI/Fabia RS works out to be more than the 86!

    Maybe there is a good exchange rate with the factory in Slovenia...?
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    Going off what I read it will be 5k gbp cheaper in the uk to the brz/86.....

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    Ok then, let's speculate

    The 207 GTi started at $33,490 (excl on roads) in 2007.

    The 206 GTi180 started at $34,990 (excl on roads) in (extremely late) 2003.

    BRZ driveaway price is from $37,150
    86 driveaway price is from $33,781.37 (list price $29,990, apparently)

    As I've not driven both cars, it would be impossible for me to say which one is the better driver's car, but it will certainly not be because one is RWD. That's just silly.

    I'm pretty sure which one stands out better.
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    Interestingly enough GTI prices haven't changed much when you consider a Series 1 205 GTI cost $29,500 in 1987 when first released in Oz.

    Later Series 3 was about $4K more with the "Classic " selling for about $37,500 in 1994.....

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    Compared to other countries the 86 is actually very well priced in Australia which puts it in a different price market here to the UK etc.

    My only comparison originally was due to wheels, but the list price on the 86 is about 29-30k (before onroads) and list price for the Pug will be about 33k (before onroads - hopefully) so they will possibly be reasonably close in price which is nice. They also have a very similar power to weight ratio so hopefully they do some good comparo's!

    I just hope that the Pug is as good as a (modern day) 205 GTi and receives as many positive reviews (as a drivers car) as the 86 has! Fingers crossed it is a cracker!
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    I'd have to say to me that is ugly. What is Peugeot doing they've completely forgotten how to make a nice looking car since and including the 206! My next car is gunna have to be a renault! The megane RS250 is really nice!!!!
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    I think the 208 looks good and will go well for a fair price.

    But the age review compares it with, how do I put this? Under powered cars.

    Even the 86 is under powered. Toyota disappointed me with the power figures. In 1995 the supra was 280kw at 1400kg.
    C'mon, what is going on?

    They dont compare with a focus rs (266kw) or Audi s3 (210kw).

    I'm assuming it's still fwd...
    Please. Why dont Citroen and Peugeot release awd?

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    The driving "experience" isn't all about raw power figures.

    Heck, even a clapped out 25 year old Mi16 with 108kw is still a decent punt.
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    Hahah okay.

    All I'm saying is that, the 205 was near top of the list of hot hatches at release.

    208gti isnt going to match up with hot hatches of today.

    It will just be another Peugeot, nothing special.

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    So difference between sitting in the 86 and (hopefully) the 208 will be the 86 is a toy on the inside. May be this fantastic drivers car yet it looks cheap and tacky and feels even worse. Everything is far too small in that car.

    Anyway enough bashing, I saw a quoted figure of 147Kw for the GTi. Is that the same 1.6T that is in the RCZ? As if so it is a good cracking motor, but personally I would of preferred around 160Kw. As it is quick but nothing fantastic also has quite a few gremlins in it. *edit* So just read the article, it is indeed the same motor so it will be a quick little punter. All though a face lift RCZ is said to be appearing along with the 208 GTi... Hmm..

    Also the mention of the RS250 megan why buy that when you can get the RS265. Go and scare the ricer wrxs out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by STALLED View Post
    The driving "experience" isn't all about raw power figures.

    Heck, even a clapped out 25 year old Mi16 with 108kw is still a decent punt.
    Agreed! Or interior quality...

    Especially agreed on the old MI16's still being fun to punt around
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    Yes, both reviews posted in this thread point out that engine is the same 147kW motor as the RCZ.

    Why would one compare a 208 GTi with a Focus RS, Megane or S3? It's more a competitor to the Mini Cooper S, Clio RS200, Fabia RS, Polo GTi and A1 Sport, size-wise, and more than half of them can only be had in sluggomatic.

    The Age review is comparing it with cars around its own class. The 208 is a small car - a lot smaller than Golf/Focus/Megane.

    Personally, I don't see much of a comparison with the 86/BRZ either, but some do.
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    My Golf GTI has 'only' 147kw, which I personally think is fine! What will make or break the 208 is how it handles....

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    Quote Originally Posted by STALLED View Post
    You'd have to be kidding - even the Polo GTI/Fabia RS works out to be more than the 86!

    Maybe there is a good exchange rate with the factory in Slovenia...?
    The factory in Slovenia [ Town of Novo Mesto ] produces Renault. Its called Revoz. Slovenia is a member of the EC and uses the Euro. Poor buggers... I used to deal with another factory in the same town for many years...

    In any case the Toyota 86 is yet another rice bowl. In Europe you only buy Asian cars if you know nothing about cars and just need cheap transport.

    If you want a cheap fun Asian car get a used MX5.

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    I'm in France now and I was told it won't be out here until April next year. The people her aren't even exited for it. It's just another pug for them.

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