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    Good Morning to all,
    I am currently in the market for a 206 GTI 180 and was hoping some of you aficionados can offer some advice on what specifically I should be aware of. Obviously a full service history and cam belt change is essential but are there any other inherant issues I should be addressing? I have been a 205 GTI driver for the last 13 years and now want to keep it in the garage so I am looking for another 'daily driver'. I am only a recent member to Aussie Frogs so hopefully I can get a few replies.
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    If the battery is nearing death, they tend to through up all kinds of errors and beeps, easily fixed though.

    Cam belt is 80K or 4 years whichever is sooner, most will be theoretically due for the second around now. Mine is, and I'm not sure whether to bother... it's only done 30K since 2008 when I bought it and changed the belt.

    The stereo is crap, but that matters more to some than others. Also easily remedied, as it fits a standard DIN headunit and 6.5" split speakers.

    Mine has been very reliable for the last 4 years.

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    I agree with all that's been said already, and I'd also add that it'd be nice if the service history has been with a Peugeot mechanic, but if not make sure you take it to one once you have it.

    I had a couple of minor issues (brake pads fitted backwards causing uneven wear, wrong fuel filter fitted resulting in a fuel line falling off in peak-hour traffic... not fun) which I'm sure were just caused by the previous owner's mechanic (a major but non-Peugeot dealership) not being familiar with the quirks of the car.

    Mine's still relatively young (2006, 50k), but hasn't given me any real problems since I bought it last year. I replaced the timing belt when I bought it, it'd only done 45k but had gone 5 years. Even with low kms the rubber can perish over time.

    A very easy car to live with. And never fails to put a massive smile on my face whenever I drive it

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    OK great. Appreciate the info. There are a few around so I want to be thorough. Thanks again... Andrew

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    Thanks abe. I am insisting on a full service history and by a Peugeot specialist. Having my 205 for this long has made me very aware of non experts. The brakes is something that I have been told to check. I believe the rear discs have little tolerance to wear. Thanks mate

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    The front driver and passenger seat reclining function sometimes fails.
    Cold start issues ie misfire for a few minutes, loss of power.

    Airbag faults and traction control issues (I think there is a gyro fails) are obvious ones as it will log a fault.

    If you buy it with a roadworthy the rear discs will have to be over minimum thickness anyway so don't stress.

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    Do you know what causes the cold start issues? And if so, is it expensive to fix? Also if the airbag and/or traction control has a fault, am I to assume that a warning light on the dash will be lit or is it logged in the cpu? Thanks for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by acboxer View Post
    Do you know what causes the cold start issues?
    Yes. It is cold weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XM Mechanic View Post
    Yes. It is cold weather.


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    G'day,
    what he means to say is;
    turn the key until all the dash lights illuminate,
    wait until they extinguish,
    turn the key and start the engine,
    wait about one minute before going anywhere.

    Otherwise the little bastard will cough and splutter and generally let you know you have not followed the above.
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    OK cheers. Much appreciated. It seems that there is nothing really major to worry about provided they have been looked after well? regards, Andrew

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    G'day,
    that's about it. However, as they say, you pay your money and take your chance, or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pug206gti View Post
    G'day,
    what he means to say is;
    turn the key until all the dash lights illuminate,
    wait until they extinguish,
    turn the key and start the engine,
    wait about one minute before going anywhere.

    Otherwise the little bastard will cough and splutter and generally let you know you have not followed the above.
    Exactly. I should add, that mine has lived about 50/50 inside and out. When stored in a garage, the cold starting isn't really an issue. The waiting for the lights to go out is always a good idea though.

    Doesn't seem to actually matter if it's truly cold outside, mine still splutters in summer if you rush it in the mornings after spending the night outside.

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    That's good to know. Similar to my 205 I guess. she doesn't particularly like cold mornings either. Good advice guys! There are a couple of nice ones about around the 70k mark for around $11 to 12 grand. Sounds fair??

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    It does sound fair. however if 180's are anything like my 206 gti your gonna go crazy every winter - building on that cold start issue, you might get anti pollution faults and catalytic converter faults when its cold and moist.

    no idea how to fix it though, theres a billion suggestions out there

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    Ok great. Something to look forward to then lol. You'd think cold starts wouldn't be an issue considering Europe gets much colder than over here. Oh well. Thanks again for the advice. Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by pug206gti View Post
    G'day,
    what he means to say is;
    turn the key until all the dash lights illuminate,
    wait until they extinguish,
    turn the key and start the engine,
    wait about one minute before going anywhere.

    Otherwise the little bastard will cough and splutter and generally let you know you have not followed the above.
    I follow this routine also and find it solves 99% of the issue. I may get the occasional splutter for the first few hundred metres down the road but it's barely noticeable.

    I am in Perth though so probably not so many cold mornings as you eastern folk

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    Thanks again Abe. Regards

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    Ditto with the start up stuff. As for other issues. I think the throwout bearing /arm is weak in these and if the clutch is shuddering it may need replacing. Coil packs are known to pack it in as well. otherwise they are pretty nice cars.

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    Thanks kk. I'll add it to the 'to check' list. Are the coil packs and throw out bearings expensive? Cheers mate. Andrew

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    If the throwout bearing goes it pretty much means new clutch time, that will probably cost almost a couple of thousand (well thats what it cost me anyway). The coil pack isnt a big job I think, but I cant remember how much it cost. Some people have said they have never replaced one, some say that their car "eats" them! Its worth checking out the http://www.206info.co.uk/index.php site and do a search for 180 problems. That should be a pretty good summary as well. Mostly they are pretty good though.

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    Just checked that site mate and some great stuff on there. Heaps of info and answers. A good forum. Many thanks on that.

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    Just joined that site and put the question out there. Thanks again kk.
    Wow. A couple of grand for the bearing job. Not cheap! I'll let you know how I go with the 206info site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KK Puggy View Post
    Ditto with the start up stuff. As for other issues. I think the throwout bearing /arm is weak in these and if the clutch is shuddering it may need replacing. Coil packs are known to pack it in as well. otherwise they are pretty nice cars.
    G'day,
    there are a few threads about the Sachs clutch. It shudders, which is normal. Do a search for the threads, all will be revealed.
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    A full face oe clutch should never normally shudder. I think you will find most haven't had a flywheel machine when it was out I'm sure.

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