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    Gidday folks

    My son has just got a 2003 307 and the multifunction display is "cactus" I contacte European Auto Recyclers in Brisbane ( Northgate) who have reconditioned items available... it appears they send these away to get the display replaced.

    Does any one know who does it or if the display bought off http://sacer-ltd.en.made-in-china.co...7-SA1206-.html or http://www.easybizchina.com/product/...n_display.html need any additional connectors fitted to enable replacement.

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    This crowd want a minimum order of 5 http://www.gasgoo.com/auto-products/...9/1205789.html - I have sent a request for more info - I shall keep you posted

    Has any one tried this fix or know anyone who has. It appears they also have the displays for 206's 405, 407's and so on.

    Comments please
    Thanks Ian
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    Hi

    Thanks but there is no gurantee that it works and return postage is expensive hence my decision to look at other avenues - the replacement would be good
    Ian
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    The same has happened to my Dad's 407. If this is a design flaw as it most certainly appears to be, what's to stop a replacement part exhibiting the exact same behaviour within a couple of years?

    I'm much more tempted (not that tempted) to take the existing one apart and re-solder with lead full solder as my theory is the lead free solder isn't ductile enough.
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    It appears that the LCD display degenerates with the heat it is not a soldering problem I had the same issue back in my 405 ( temp display). For some reason the colour displays arte more resilient that the orange ones.

    On the subject of resoldering - lead free solder and lead solder are incompatible and are likely to be a source of dry joints, having said that there are some products that are backward compatible that is can use lead free in a lead joint but not lead in a leadfree joint -- or so the gurus tell me.

    If the displays are cheap enough then its not an issue to dismantle and replace, will keep you posted

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    It's particularly a problem on the 307 as the display was very close to the screen - the 206 model was usually just blown globes in the back of the display unit.

    Not heard too many issues with 407 displays, but they are not as numerous as 206s and 307s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meggsy View Post
    It appears that the LCD display degenerates with the heat it is not a soldering problem
    It's not a clear winner but the soldering one is still the best theory for me. When it's cold in winter, the display lights up like a Christmas tree first thing in the morning when it's cold.
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    I'd be keen on one for 407 if they're getting ordered....
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    Old unit has two processors in it and the heat affects data transmission between the two chips. New style (late 407/308) has one chip. I believe a 308 display may fit a 307 T6/407 with some re routing of the wiring harness.
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    Just bought a replacement display off Ebay for $266 rather than the $678 quoted by Mildrens. Fingers crossed for a good result!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meggsy View Post
    On the subject of resoldering - lead free solder and lead solder are incompatible and are likely to be a source of dry joints, having said that there are some products that are backward compatible that is can use lead free in a lead joint but not lead in a leadfree joint -- or so the gurus tell me.

    Ian
    Not sure about the incompatibility bit.
    Lead free solder is a bit of a pain to work with. You need a hotter iron, and it doesnt have the flexibility that lead solder has. It is more rigid, and I'd suspect that it would give troubles if circuit board was subject to flexing.
    I would check circuit board out with a bright light and magnifying specs and touch up joints that look sus. I'd apply solder very sparingly, just use enough to get good heat transfer from iron tip to joint

    Quote Originally Posted by young 4 old pug View Post
    Old unit has two processors in it and the heat affects data transmission between the two chips. New style (late 407/308) has one chip. I believe a 308 display may fit a 307 T6/407 with some re routing of the wiring harness.
    With Multiplex wiring and its software I'd be cautious about swapping a unit from a similar model. It may plug in, but there only has to be a slight change (even 1 byte) in the program and it may not run.
    It may also need a dealer to enable it. Some cars have the optional sat nav unit. When these are installed .. the dealer has to tell the management system that it's there and let it in.
    Even if the same identical unit was being put back in ..there is a fair chance the dealer would still have to update the system. All 'remote' units in a car have to be identifiable as they are all across a common bus.
    Also.. if the original unit is cactus... then a reset is possibly needed (maybe achieved by disconnecting power) What can happen in these systems is that when a remote doesnt respond, it will get polled less and less by the central unit as it wont waste time asking a non responsive remote to respond. Eventually it may not get polled at all.
    May be wrong in this re compatibility but I'd be certain before spending big dollars on a part from an overseas supplier.

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    I think they are just a "dumb" display. We had one replaced in our 307 under warranty when the display developed multiple fine stripes. The replacement one gave no trouble ( at least before we traded the car in ) The broader, dim area problem that my 206 has had is fixed with new bulbs. Easy fix, but fiddly.
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    They are not "dumb" units. They take info from BSI, radio, eng ecu, air bag ecu (via BSI), and also store date, time, vehicle parameter information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decca View Post
    Not sure about the incompatibility bit.
    Lead free solder is a bit of a pain to work with. You need a hotter iron, and it doesnt have the flexibility that lead solder has. It is more rigid, and I'd suspect that it would give troubles if circuit board was subject to flexing.
    I would check circuit board out with a bright light and magnifying specs and touch up joints that look sus. I'd apply solder very sparingly, just use enough to get good heat transfer from iron tip to joint



    With Multiplex wiring and its software I'd be cautious about swapping a unit from a similar model. It may plug in, but there only has to be a slight change (even 1 byte) in the program and it may not run.
    It may also need a dealer to enable it. Some cars have the optional sat nav unit. When these are installed .. the dealer has to tell the management system that it's there and let it in.
    Even if the same identical unit was being put back in ..there is a fair chance the dealer would still have to update the system. All 'remote' units in a car have to be identifiable as they are all across a common bus.
    Also.. if the original unit is cactus... then a reset is possibly needed (maybe achieved by disconnecting power) What can happen in these systems is that when a remote doesnt respond, it will get polled less and less by the central unit as it wont waste time asking a non responsive remote to respond. Eventually it may not get polled at all.
    May be wrong in this re compatibility but I'd be certain before spending big dollars on a part from an overseas supplier.

    Decca
    A late 307/308 has pretty much IDENTICAL multiplexing layout, structure and coding. There are differences in engine management systems but low speed body systems are pretty much the same.
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    However, in regards to this being an EARLY 307, with the simplified CANBUS network, the late 307/308 MFD units will not work.
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    Finally got the display installed by Mildrens and it works wonderfully. The dark bits are dark and the orange bits are orange and I can now configure my car after it gets past 7 degrees celsius!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meggsy View Post
    Gidday folks

    My son has just got a 2003 307 and the multifunction display is "cactus" I contacte European Auto Recyclers in Brisbane ( Northgate) who have reconditioned items available... it appears they send these away to get the display replaced.

    Does any one know who does it or if the display bought off http://sacer-ltd.en.made-in-china.co...7-SA1206-.html or http://www.easybizchina.com/product/...n_display.html need any additional connectors fitted to enable replacement.

    This crowd want a minimum order of 5 http://www.gasgoo.com/auto-products/...9/1205789.html - I have sent a request for more info - I shall keep you posted

    Has any one tried this fix or know anyone who has. It appears they also have the displays for 206's 405, 407's and so on.

    Comments please
    Thanks Ian

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    Itried o source from scaser and got no replies to my email on that but about 40 repies trying to sell a rearvision mirror with an LCD display in it
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    I had answer but you have to buy U$S 200 minimum

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    Looking for some advice please.
    I recently purchased a used Peugeot 407 SV Sport and the LCD display works however does not display any Air Con information. When I asked the previous owner they mentioned it had been replaced in the past. So I am thinking is this display the incorrect one for my vehicle OR does it require re programming on the screen itself or the ECU computer? Thanks

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    I replaced my LCD with a new one. My AC details come up.

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    I replaced mine with one from this seller on ebay in Melbourne, was several years ago and have had no issues since.

    Peugeot 407 Display Screen Type C Display Yellow Color Replace Fading Display | eBay

    replacement is simple DIY job.

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