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    Hello all,

    I am considering purchase of a new 508 Diesel - value about $50k. This would be my first "French Adventure", previously having driven (old) Mercedes, with varying degrees of reliability and some very expensive disasters eg 300D engine rebuild $6000 & wiring harness on a 95 E220 $3000 + fitting, both examples a fiat accompli or take car to wreckers!

    Having viewed the second hand market for Mercedes and BMW diesels, say 4 years old, I have concluded them to be somewhat risky, with expensive repairs probable in the next 3 years or so. Conclusion: go for the new 508, good engine, new engineering, new quality control? etc.

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    Does anyone have experience with the 508 yet?

    Any comments will be interesting....

    Ken.

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    I know nothing about them, but I've an idea depreciation will be horrendous. (Just a gut feeling).



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    My soon-to-be-mother-in-law has recently bought a 508 Touring 'Allure', with the 2.0 litre diesel engine.

    She absolutely loves it, and, like you, she bought it after considering Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW, and Volvo. To get the same level of features on any of the other models was $25k more at a minimum, an amount certainly not to be sneezed at! There is no other car on the market today that offers the same value-for-money as the 508.

    Anyhow, she absolutely loves it and is very happy with her decision to get the 508 over the others. It is probably too early on to say anything about reliability, but for now it is fair to say that the build quality is worlds apart of previous Peugeot models. Interior, exterior and driving all feel very solid, well built, and everything fits and works. It feels 'expensive', not plastic-y like other recent Peugeots.

    Having driven it a few times now, my only complaint is that the steering is a little too light for my liking. That said, it is certainly sure-footed and road feel is adequate. So many gadgets in it to get used to!

    Looks like a winner to me!
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    Depreciation aside, it looks more expensive that what it costs and the build quality is superb.
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    As others have already stated it is on another level in terms of build and quality. The engine is tried and tested, not to mention that it features in othe car manufacturers models, plenty of low down torque which gives an effortless drive and good economy.

    I have driven both the 2.0 Hdi and the 2.2 Hdi GT. I found the 508 very comfotable for long distance driving with plenty of space both front and back and the front seats have lots of adjustment. I am 6'3" and could not fault the seat comfort / driving position.

    I found that the 508 grows on you....

    The only one weakness that I have seen is that the rear light clusters on the sedan are vunerable as they are almost flush to the rear bumper which does have some give...

    Overall a great car. Pay extra for a 2 year extended warranty and you'll have 5 years of worry free motoring.

    In terms of depreciation an addition to the overall equation will come into play when the fuel prices start to rocket.... Once you get a modern Diesel like the Hdi you'll never look back.

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    It also has some 504 DNA
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    Quote Originally Posted by 908HDI View Post
    I have driven both the 2.0 Hdi and the 2.2 Hdi GT.
    What was your opinion on ride quality of the 2.0 HDi vs the multilink suspension of the GT?

    It seems to get a mention in every road report - basically that it is noticeable harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doush_504 View Post
    It also has some 504 DNA
    Yes, you're right ! Those rear light clsuters have the early 504 Coupe / Cabriolet cues...

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    I drove the 2.0 and hated the ride. Very un-Peugeot. It was a blessing to go back to my Volvo which I've always considered agricultural in its ride compared to my previous Peugeots. Even my BMW with sports tuned suspension has a much more supple ride.

    However, the appearance of the inside of the Peugeot 508 is worlds ahead of where they used to be, and the features you get for your money is astonishing to say the least.

    Biggest disappointment in the interior department is that the rear seat is terrible just like in all the German cars. Why didn't they copy themselves and stick to the sensational rear seats like we're used to in 504, 505, 605, etc ????

    Reliability? The one I drove had about 120km on the odometer and the driver's side mirror electrics had already failed. So yes, it's definitely a French car and out of the same factory as all the terribly unreliable ones that preceeded it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 908HDI View Post
    Yes, you're right ! Those rear light clsuters have the early 504 Coupe / Cabriolet cues...
    In addition to the start button being on the left like the 504 (talking about LHD here)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206 View Post
    What was your opinion on ride quality of the 2.0 HDi vs the multilink suspension of the GT?

    It seems to get a mention in every road report - basically that it is noticeable harder.

    The 508 does ride harder than you would expect but I would like to see how that feels say after 10-15,000 kms when the suspension has settled... The 2.2 GT has the better handling and the steering feels more direct as it lacks the electric assistance of the lesser models. However avoid the large wheel options if you prefer a compliant ride.

    I found the 2.0 Hdi a great all rounder and the enigne / gearbox worked very well. The 2.2 Hdi GT has noticable more power and surprising pace plus all the kit, but the price differential is hard to justify as the 2.0 Hdi Allure is such a good package...

    By the way, I had both out in the UK and drove the 2.0 Hdi into Europe. [ France and Germany ].

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ810 View Post
    I drove the 2.0 and hated the ride. Very un-Peugeot. It was a blessing to go back to my Volvo which I've always considered agricultural in its ride compared to my previous Peugeots. Even my BMW with sports tuned suspension has a much more supple ride.

    However, the appearance of the inside of the Peugeot 508 is worlds ahead of where they used to be, and the features you get for your money is astonishing to say the least.

    Biggest disappointment in the interior department is that the rear seat is terrible just like in all the German cars. Why didn't they copy themselves and stick to the sensational rear seats like we're used to in 504, 505, 605, etc ????

    Reliability? The one I drove had about 120km on the odometer and the driver's side mirror electrics had already failed. So yes, it's definitely a French car and out of the same factory as all the terribly unreliable ones that preceeded it!
    The rule was always that with French cars you sit in the seats and not on them....Modern French cars do not follow that rule anymore. I did not find the seats too hard. In fact they were very supportive on our long drive. You also have to bear in mind that when the car is new everything will be a lot stiffer...

    I did not experience any faults.

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