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    Default Another AL4 oil change question , which is the drain plug?

    Hi
    Yes I tried the search funtion.
    The 307's AL4 needs an oil change so purchased the origional and expensive oil and raised the car on the hoist expecting to see a large drain plug with a smaller level check nut in its center. But what I found was a " normal " Peugeot drain plug ( with 8mm square) , I removed this plug and only 1 litre of oil came out .

    I can not see any thing else low enough to be a drain plug and can see no way to do a level check.
    Am I missing somethging ? Can anybody point out the obvious to me.

    Photos below show the bottom of the box with the plug I removed easy seen by thr trail of oil.

    Which one is the drain and level check?

    Thanks in advance.
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    That the only hole they have... You're right to have expected the big bolt with a smaller one inside for the level tube.

    Not much help though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    That the only hole they have... You're right to have expected the big bolt with a smaller one inside for the level tube.

    Not much help though...
    If its the only hole they have , how do I get the rest of the oil out ?
    Then check the level.?
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    There is a real process involved here. Citroen people know how to do it. Post in the Citroen section and you will get more help. Its not an easy thing from what I can make out?

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    Dunno - yours may be one where they took the "sealed for life" crap really seriously!!

    Sorry - hopefully someone else knows why your one is different...

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    Just a thought, why would it have a level plug since it has a level dipstick ?
    I would have thought that it was the correct plug since it is at the bottom.
    Maybe you need a suction pump.
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    Andy,

    The following pages from a Factory Manual may help you (hopefully).


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    Quote Originally Posted by con View Post
    Andy,

    The following pages from a Factory Manual may help you (hopefully).


    con....
    As I thought. not an easy process. A Servo mechanic would have no idea when it came to this gearbox. Even the Oil change is cumbersome and time consuming if the person doesn't know what they are doing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doush_504 View Post
    Just a thought, why would it have a level plug since it has a level dipstick ?
    It's been quite a while since PSA produced a car with an auto that had a dipstick, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206 View Post
    It's been quite a while since PSA produced a car with an auto that had a dipstick, unfortunately.
    Oh !! I thought it was like in the 406.
    Do they make them "Sealed for life" now ?
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    The auto gearboxes are 'sealed for life' which is, evidently, 100,000 km. The oil will get replaced next rebuild. Perhaps if the oil were to be changed more frequently... Ahh never mind, just a foolish thought.
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    Thanks for all the help.
    Con your files were a great deal of help as I was able to determine that my box was differant and I was not going mad! Correct info from A&B Transmission , over the phone very helpfull
    The later AL4's are a little bit differant to the early ones.
    They no longer have the small level check plug in the centre of the 27mm drain plug.
    There is now only a normal sized level check plug , that when removed will allow excess oil to drain , if you wish to drain the whole gearbox you must insert a 8mm Allen key up the plug and unscrew and remove a plastic tube which will then allow the oil to drain.
    This is not a plesant job as you have hot auto oil dripping on your hand while unscrewing the plastic tube. Another step forward in car design!
    The car now has smother gear changes , so well worth the effort and cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally View Post
    There is now only a normal sized level check plug , that when removed will allow excess oil to drain , if you wish to drain the whole gearbox you must insert a 8mm Allen key up the plug and unscrew and remove a plastic tube which will then allow the oil to drain.
    This is not a plesant job as you have hot auto oil dripping on your hand while unscrewing the plastic tube. Another step forward in car design!
    The car now has smother gear changes , so well worth the effort and cost.
    Thanks for the info, Rally.

    Presumably, one litre came out the first time because the gearbox was not at the "correct" temperature for the stand pipe.
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    Rally where did you have this done on the Central Coast?

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