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    Default 505 SRDT vacuum pump replacement

    Has anyone replaced a diesel vacuum pump with a non-505 part? Reason I ask is that mine has died and none of the wreckers carry 505 parts anymore (well, diesel bits anyway).

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    I've heard of some people using electric pumps to replace the vac pump, but thought a more effective solution might be to fit a pump/alternator off a diesel 4WD. Most of the Japanese diesels have this setup.

    AFAIK it would involve fitting a new alternator only - how hard would it be to make this work?

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    I plan to use an alternator off a 2.8 litre turbo diesel Nissan Patrol GQ on the diesel engine I'm building for my 505 wagon project.

    It mounts without too much hassle. The hardest part will be the oil feed & drain for the vacuum pump.

    I have an electric pump on my GTD, but I find it noisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by four_plus_two View Post
    Has anyone replaced a diesel vacuum pump with a non-505 part? Reason I ask is that mine has died and none of the wreckers carry 505 parts anymore (well, diesel bits anyway).

    I've heard of some people using electric pumps to replace the vac pump, but thought a more effective solution might be to fit a pump/alternator off a diesel 4WD. Most of the Japanese diesels have this setup.

    AFAIK it would involve fitting a new alternator only - how hard would it be to make this work?
    I looked into this and most of the 4WD people are keen to get rid of theirs, brand new they are very expensive. Older Saab and Volvos had electric vacuum pumps that the electric vehicle crowd use. I looked at u-pull-it the other day through a bunch of Volvos and couldn't find one so I think it may be the turbo models only.
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    The original on my 504 was replaced a few years ago with a Frenos Iruna unit. It was done by a Pug specialist and looks to be a bolt-in replacement.
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    A diesel 504 I bought had a toyota 4wd diesel alternator with vacuum pump fitted.
    The oil feed was tee-d out of the oil pipe running along the block.
    Problem was that the oil discharge from the vacuum pump was then ducted into the oil filler cap opposite the breather hose going to the aircleaner.
    The vacuum pump must have generated oil mist because the engine would more often than not "run-away".
    Temporary fix was to duct oil from vacuum pump down dipstick tube, but inconvenient.
    Never did get that vehicle on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by four_plus_two View Post
    Has anyone replaced a diesel vacuum pump with a non-505 part? Reason I ask is that mine has died and none of the wreckers carry 505 parts anymore (well, diesel bits anyway).

    I've heard of some people using electric pumps to replace the vac pump, but thought a more effective solution might be to fit a pump/alternator off a diesel 4WD. Most of the Japanese diesels have this setup.

    AFAIK it would involve fitting a new alternator only - how hard would it be to make this work?

    Have you got the one that looks like a mushroom (non servicable) or the alternative servicable vaccun pump with a square top and external screws and bolts? The servicable type just require a new diaphram (avaible form your mercedes wrecker/parts supplier). Pull it apart slowly on a clean work bench and clean everyhting thoroughly, re assemble with new diaphram and new oil.

    If you have a non servicable type best to change over, will require a little bit of work and probably a different sized belt.

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    If you use an electric one, add a vacuum switch to the reservoir and wire the pump through the switch. Then, if you're not using the brakes, the pump doesn't run.

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    I know of an XD2S with a Delucia alternator /vacuum pump fitted....$120 from a Gold Coast wrecker

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    Thanks guys. The pump has completely failed (the bearings came apart and the piston broke). New/replacement needed!

    Car will be going on sale soon, as unfortunately I don't have the space or time to work on it.

    Still a great car - drove Brisbane-Bathurst-Sydney and back over New Years with no probs, averaged around 7l/100km and it soaked up the crappy New England highway potholes.

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    I bought a diaphragm pump from British Car Parts in the UK for about 45 pounds and 21 pounds postage. (on ebay).
    Set up for a Rover and bolted straight on.

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    As foolish as it is ... I kind of miss driving the 505 and no buyers so far as a going concern ... Hutchie, got a part number for the Rover pump (or model)?

    Edit: is this the jobbie: http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-EJP8002

    looks like only the pulley is different, mounting points look similar
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    Sorry mate. I don't.
    Perhaps contact them direct. They have a shop on ebay but no pumps advertised at the moment.

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