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    Default Peugeot 404 "el sapo" chronicles.

    The car is a peugeot 404 1979... Argentinian, from SAFRAR, 1.600cm3 with BA7/4 gearbox , i bought it with solex 34 carburator, had not compression, the tires in bad state, etc.



    As you can see, it was in a real bad condition

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    6 months later, with a lot of work and money applied on it



    You can say that it愀 in the same status, but the real work was in the floor and "chassis" of the car,

    In other way, i put led lights in the dashboard


    I put new windows, and some leds inside


    a PWM board than handle the intensity of led light.


    At low-power

    and at maximun power



    We move the car to the paint workshop


    a few days later

    a few more


    the final result




    So, everything is so nice, but what about the engine?
    I bought a gamma cylinder head (from argentinians 505)

    after that, a 504 TN camshaft

    and another things for the engine assembly

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    i looked in my house, what i have, and what i had to buy

    exactly, i had
    • refrigeration fan (in argentina, "the palet")
    • roker x2
    • start engine
    • 70% of the pieces to assembly another start engine
    • alternator
    • hoses
    • 2 distributors
    • old belts
    • ignition coil ("ignition bobin" in argentina)
    • another center of the rear bumper
    • another back light
    • PEUGEOT back logo
    • front lights
    • oil pipes
    • windshield washer motor
    • elevator and handle
    • a lot of old egine seals
    • gasoline pump
    • old timing chain belt with the tensioner
    • spark plugs
    • valves cover
    • a 2.0 504 intake manifold,
    • 2 radiators
    • 8 valve pushrod


    We start mounting that, but we look at the pistons, and they aren愒 broken, but...

    We had to change them, so let愀 do it better. We put 88mm pistons and 81mm crankshaft, like a 504 2.0

    this

    evolves into


    the pistons, became into ashtrays


    so, look at this


    then, we end the assembly, and



    and, with the car at home, the REAL fun begins







    i took off the marshall starlux lights, and the dashboard




    before took the marshall out, i tested them



    The new start system... because the start key is blocked



    it was used for 3 months, jeje

    the roof, with new tapestry








    some days after, i work on the original radio system


    i took the radio out


    i repair 2 door panels, and bought 2 new

    the radio working

    with "fasinator" help
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    i search the damaged components

    i clean the radio ( that has the peugeot logo inside )
    and tested it


    then, victorious, i clean another pieces





    I put the lateral windows, and windshield.



    then, i arrive home, and i find this




    a friend gifts me the weels "similar" to the 505 GAMMA, but with 3 holes for the 404
    Then, we put the weels, and work on the fiat 600 of mi friend, martin






    Another day, i arrange all the old electrical instalation, and put a new one...


    Now, it has LIGHTS!



    And electrical door lock, 68 pesos on mercadolibre (a website like ebay, but in latino-america)

    another things


    took a wash, little pug



    but, the start engine has broken, so we start the vehicle towing
    i put the back logo


    another weekend, i repair the start engine, and put some lights










    a friend paints my dashboard





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    An excelent work. I start to put it in place



    then, i stop to eat some pasta

    and continues



    driving a little



    then, the wiper motor doesn愒 run...








    a lttle of art

    a good photo




    I put the isolator on the floor of the pug,

    a new sit;

    sorry, this are the new seats

    we change the carburator, and put a SOLEX 34-34 EIES,



    look for gasoline?



    keep working, johnny worker

    but sometimes, i do some house-works



    door panels impermeabilization

    and installation


    some indicators


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    and after that, the floor carpet!




    A gift of a friend, molerpa!


    The wheels centers



    On my birthday (july 27) mi girdfriend gifts me a cake


    and my father, this





    some photos on the road




    and inside the car


    a new alternator,


    this is the brand of a friend, than makes modifications on the ecu management of new cars. Of course, i put one of his stickers in my car


    starting the pug, with the automatic throttle



    and many turns, in the west access



    And many fotos in the peugeot racing team meeting, a few days ago, with many friends pug-lovers






    molerpa, a user of this forum, helps me many times, he is, in argentinian words, "a very gross person"...

    New steer






    I go to a classic cars meeting, in a town that is @ 200km from here

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    Original 404 GP tachometer




    And time to work in the front wheels assemblies, change the steering box, wishbones, etc.


    Salio torreta uno



    The two mcphersons inside mi old-new car, a suzuki fun 2005


    yellow elastomer wishbones


    I install a double circuit brake pump


    steering-box


    installed!

    ESPERO tener las mangas listas HOY... espero
    A small problem with one bolt...



    One side, ready

    Goodbye, see you tomorrow


    There is not so much space to place a boy in the boot


    I get really dirt...


    taking out the air from the brakes systems.







    Starting to work again
    Braking!


    Video testing the brakes

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    Gasoline pump working again


    A small problem with the steering


    Tachometer working

    A small diference between the steering arms...

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    Now,some stuff for making some upgrades... Electromagnetic pulley for the fan


    it was made in FRANCE


    I need a screwdriver... where is my screwdriver???
    MOLER! WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY SCREWDRIVER???


    FRANCE... en su puta vida lo cambiaron

    Then, i contact a boy from “las flores”, a town 170km from my home. He need some stuff than i have to make his 505 working, and he gives me some things than i need to the next stage of overhaul. So we go, and we take this:
    505 SRInjection electronic distributor, ducellier, french.





    Dry coil


    Electronic ignition module


    Tapita para la bomba de nafta comun


    And the 505 SRinjection intake manifold and plenum



    The distributor must be repaired, so we do it with molerpa


    This one, doesnīt want to get out, so....

    [img]http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5125/im
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    Cleaning it


    Painted

    New bushing
    A bit of art, with compressed air





    And the aluminium crankcase, to fit an A.C.


    More work on the intake manifold, take out the mechanical injectors

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    Too much work, letīs eat something...

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    Checking the weel alignment.


    A small video testing the brakes on a dirt surface
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    And a photo with mi suzuki


    then we take out the old ignition system, to put the electronic one. With two distributors:






    How it works?


    A high-level dinner, pizza with champagne!
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    The tachometer lights


    Some others overhauls to make the technical review












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    Now, we are able to keep running in the streets

    I buy a Renault 12 intake, to put an air filter
    Cleaning the boot


    And take some photos to the car





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    At the next day, we go with moler and some other peugeot fans, to a town near bs.as (San Nicolas, 250km) but i can not arrive, because the differentials brokes up. But i will not repair the old one, iīm going to fit a 505 LSD differential.Thanks to moler and pablo

    The LSD


    Well, letīs start the overhaul! I take out one of the semi-axles
    [img width=600 height=450]http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9248/imagen617s.jpg[/img]

    The oil? full of small bronze pieces



    In the other side,



    Taking out the worm weel... bronze... (puaj)



    The worm shaft, is made of steel


    Ya fuera las dos mangas!


    And the problem was.... The shaft broken!



    So leave it leaking for today, and start again tomorrow



    Another thing to install in a future, 5-gear gearbox!

    But so much for today...


    The entire rear axle inside mi suzuki....

    And the pug, with only 2 wheels



    Overhauling the right semi-axle, i must make a new shape to the bolts

    and it can fit...

    (Pignataro Indistries Co. Trademark)

    So letīs check the dimensions, to overhaul the tube and the shaft,
    Original

    LSD + oil retainer


    Difference between shafts
    Original (estria gruesa)

    LSD


    So, the tube must be of 1630mm, and the shaft of 1570mm.



    The windshield washer nozzles!

    and the cable to the boot, to fit the battery in the back




    New fuel pipes. 2, one to te engine, and one for the gasoline retunr

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    Mate, WELCOME to Aussiefrogs and congratulations on the 404 rebuild. You have really brought your car back from the dead. Well done.
    John W

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    1974 Peugeot 504 TI
    - now on the road

    2009 Peugeot 407 HDI wagon - family car

    Previous: 2005 407 HDI manual sedan, 1980 504 GL, 1990 405 Mi16, 1977 504 GL Special, 1984 505 SRD Turbo



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    with a dremmel, i overhaul the tube to differential fitting.


    The dimension of the shaft, OK

    but the tube, ooooooppppssss itīs so short!



    so, i have to put a new tube, or make a separator. Option II looks better

    The battery, in the boot:

    Checking the cables are right...


    A regulable panhard rod


    Start to fit it...



    A bit of paint to the brake drumms

    It looks done...


    The rims, repaired and with new pneus...

    yokohama A-Drive 175-65-15.






    Testing the LSD benefits




    Then, we install the CNG system


    A little problem with the lambda sensor

    Trying to make the [email protected] wiper work



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    Some pictures “on the road”




    Filling up the cng tank with my friend, molerpa!





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    Starting to put a EFI on a 404 1979....



    This is the stuff...




    This are the injectors


    First of all, we take out the mechanical fuel injectors


    Milton&Wilson MotorSport Division, design some pieces to fit the electronic injectors in the place of the mechanical ones





    But they was so far from the intake tube, so, my friend kaesar6 overhault it






    Then, a TPS to the throttle body



    A fuel pump, courtesy of B2Tech (Argentinian #1 official MegaSquirt EFI dealer)


    A bit dirt, the place than i install it, is not so clean.

    Then, a fuel inyector rail DIY


    In the test with air, it moves out at pressures upper than 7bar, so i must make another extra fixation.


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    now, it doesnīt moves anymore, and it doesntīs leak, so... send it to make a anti-rust treatment and paint



    The manifold, with some cables, hoses, etc.


    Testing in-situ:



    First problem,


    Throttle body so close to the brake pump. Just fixed rotating a bit the brake pump

    Problem II

    The fixations must be re-designed...

    Problema 3

    The distributor doesnīt fit with the extension... I must put the short fixation.
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    So, molerpa visited my home and we work, first, in the accelerator cable

    Then, in the intake manifold



    And, starting on cng...








    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HupI_...layer_embedded
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    The top speed was around 160 km/h at cng, nothing bad..



    Now, i put an alarm, and a small radio system on the new console

    Now, i connect the fuel lines... etc.

    I visit B2Tech and they help me to start the car on gasoline again... now, ITīS ALIVE!!!

    it must be tuned, but itīs working fine...


    --------------------------------- EPILOGO---------------------------
    Well, if you read all, thank you. This car is a constant proyect, i have more to do with it, like fit this turbo and try to reach 160hp at cng.



    Saludos!

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    Now, iīm looking for the injection logo, from the 404 with kugelfischer injection... I really want to have it in my car

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    Quote Originally Posted by peujohn
    Mate, WELCOME to Aussiefrogs and congratulations on the 404 rebuild. You have really brought your car back from the dead. Well done.
    Thanks! the car is a "neverend project" but, i really like it!

    Thanks for the welcome

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    Welcome to the aussiefrogs forum what you have done with this car is truly sensational and to be greatly admired.Inspirational.And thank you for taking the time to share it with us.

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    thanks heaps shadowpucci for your generous story.
    what a brave and ingenious stop-at-nothing approach
    to making a woebegone 404 into something outrageous
    and beautiful! don't stop! much regards, Lo.

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    A great showing of force by los Porteņos, thanks for sharing. The 404 looks amazing, I will dig through my spares for the "injection" plate you are looking for. I have one somewhere from my 504 XN2 coupe, is it the same as the one from the 404 you are looking for?

    As an aside: In the interest of full disclosure, ThanosK and Thanos are the same person. I got a new email address, then forgot my AF password. After a few attempts to reconnect, I took the coward's way out and established a new identity. Perhaps the admin can drop the "K" from my name.

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    Thanos, we don't need the sonda plate of the K jetronic injection. We used the manifold as it is plug&play with the head, and as seen it is with programable injection, with electronic injector fitted in where the original K injectors were.

    Originally it came with 1.6 engine, single port head, and one throat carburetor. Now it is like a XN6, but instead of K, is electronic.


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    It is simply impractical to expect a petrol motor to get through too much water. That's why God invented diesels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molerpa View Post
    Thanos, we don't need the sonda plate of the K jetronic injection. We used the manifold as it is plug&play with the head, and as seen it is with programable injection, with electronic injector fitted in where the original K injectors were.

    Originally it came with 1.6 engine, single port head, and one throat carburetor. Now it is like a XN6, but instead of K, is electronic.
    Molerpa, I was responding to Shadowpucci's comment that he was looking for the "injection" insignia from a Kugelfischer 404. I have (somewhere) a metal plate, around 30 mm x 100 mm, that reads "injection" that was on the trunk of my 504 XN2 coupe with the KF injection, I expect it is the same or similar to the one needed for the 404.

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    thanks for the congratulations, iīm really happy with my car performance, and iīm working to run faster and better.

    Thanos, i dont know about the 504 injection plate, but if you have one photo, i can tell you. The one than iīm looking for is this one.




    If you have one of this, just send me a MP and we can find the way to make an arrangement

    Thank you

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    Tu eres un inspiration ! (you will understand what I am trying to say). Mi mujer (atras - my ex- wife) desde Uruguay. I spent almost 12 months of my life in your country (6 meses 87/88, mas desde 90/92. I was then in BsAs suburb of Hurlingham and St Martin Calle Ballasteros then Ushuaia, and La Pedrera on the Atlantic side of Uruguay. All wonderful You have done a fabulous job, so should be very proud. Today is La Dia l'Anno Nuevo, so a good time to wish you Cumpleanos and all the Best of Thoughts. Hasta lluego !

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowpucci View Post
    thanks for the congratulations, iīm really happy with my car performance, and iīm working to run faster and better.

    Thanos, i dont know about the 504 injection plate, but if you have one photo, i can tell you. The one than iīm looking for is this one.




    If you have one of this, just send me a MP and we can find the way to make an arrangement

    Thank you
    Sorry, it is not the same. The one from the 504 is a rectangle with "injection" written inside it with the same script as the one in your photo. You can sort of see it below the Peugeot insignia in the attached photo. If you are still interested let me know and I will dig it up.
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    Sorry, Thanos, I missunderstood.

    306cabmad: So you've been here? I've found many times aussies in Argentina, and we got along quite quick...


    Quote Originally Posted by luthier View Post
    It is simply impractical to expect a petrol motor to get through too much water. That's why God invented diesels.

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    Very nice 404, fantastic even! I like the rev-counter from the TN and also the wheels. Fantastic!

    If you could tell me the chassis number of your car, I could add it to the worldwide 404 Registry. I don't have very many Argentinian 404s in the list yet. Gracias!

    Some European parts suppliers have the old 404 ""Injection" badges, maybe Der Franzose is one of them? I see them on eBay sometimes.
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