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    Mounting driving lights on 505

    I've recently installed a pair of rectangular Hella spots on my 505 (couldn't justify the price of Cibies, I'm afraid).

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    After humming and hahing for a while I cut out sections of the radiator grill for them. (I wanted them behind the bumper), but I'm interested in other people's solutions to this. I'm not 100% happy with the resulting "look" and it obstructs the radiator a little, although a bit of fine tuning will probably improve it a bit.

    One could , I guess, cut out sections of the front air dam, but these cost a hell of a lot more than grills (and I have a spare grill, but no spare dam) so i was bit reluctant. I also thought I'd be more likely to destroy them on car park curbs etc if they were down low in the dam. How have other 505 owners dealt with the issue of driving lights?

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    Hi Rod,

    Due to lots of Blue Mtns fog, I got some rectangular HELLA lamps on my S1 505GTi. It had the 'usual' black plastic front bumber due to it's '85 vintage. I too was thinking only in-front of the grille but found the two front mounts were the only realistic options. I drilled into the mounts and used the bolts + brackets (infinte angle) supplied in the kit. The front mounts are on a 45 deg. angle where I drilled into.

    They still sit higher than the front 'painted' area so I never hit them on anything. I will try and find a piccie of the 505 and will post when I scan it. I mounted a nice 'inner-lit' red rocker switch on one of the blank switch areas near the fan controls. It looked a lot better than the black toggle switches!!

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    I too am thinking of installing Fog Lights (not driving lights) on my S1 505GR, so did you attach them to the bottom of the black bumper, or are they hanging off something else?

    Was it easy to install them? Thanks
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    Maybe I should explain the way i've set it up myself a bit more clearly. On the sLi wagon, essentially what I've done is cut out sections of the grill aperture and installed the lights by hanging them down from the upper cross beam (had to drill two holes in the cross member for the fittings). If you are careful with positioning of the holes you avoid any effect on bonnet closing . The front of the lights are accordingly very close to flush with the front of the grill, and well behind the front of the bumper. This gives them a fair amount of protection, and they integrate reasonably well with the front , but , of course, it meant cutting up the grill. The look is a bit chunkier than I would like though.

    The major downside is some obstruction to the flow of air to the radiator (from the right hand light - the left hand doesn't cause a problem because the radiator is offset). I haven't had any overheating problems so far as a result, but the weather hasn't exactly been hot in Melbourne recently.

    I used a spare rear fog light switch instead of the toggle that came with the hella kit. I've put it down where the three "blank" switches are on the dash to the right of the steering wheel on Series 2 cars, to avoid confusion with the regular rear fog light switch.

    The "low current' feed to the relay comes from the headlight high beam lead (I put in a connector close to the headlight switch itself, after removing the steering column cowling), to the new switch, and the low current feed from the switch to the relay runs through the conduit to the bootom of the fusebox and then follows the loom around the right hand side and front of the exgine compartment.

    I've put the relay right next to the box containing the fan relays on the front left hand of the engine compartment. The main "high current" feed for the relay comes directly off one of the spare heavyweight connectors that come from the battery positive.

    Took about 21/2 hours all up, including a fair bit of fussing around working out the precise location for mounting holes, best route for wiring etc etc.

    If I was mounting foglights, rather than driving lights, I'd ideally want them a bit lower down for maximum effectiveness though. Yellow lenses would also be a bit more aesthetically intrusive if mounted in the grill.

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    Rod Hagen:
    If I was mounting foglights, rather than driving lights, I'd ideally want them a bit lower down for maximum effectiveness though. Yellow lenses would also be a bit more aesthetically intrusive if mounted in the grill.
    Are there any rules governing the height of fog lights?
    In NSW, driving lights must be mounted at the same centre height as the headlights (although it doesn't seem to apply to original factory equipment), but I'm not sure about fog lights.

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    [/QUOTE]Are there any rules governing the height of fog lights?
    In NSW, driving lights must be mounted at the same centre height as the headlights (although it doesn't seem to apply to original factory equipment), but I'm not sure about fog lights.

    Dave[/QUOTE]

    In Victoria the regulations require the centre of fog lights to be level with, or below, the centre of the low beam headlights. There don't seem to be any constraints on the maximum heights of driving lights, but they have to be fitted in pairs. Low beam lights though have to be between 500mm and 1.4 metres from the ground, and at least 600mm apart.

    The Victorian regulations on fog Lights are as follows:

    105. Front fog lights

    (1) A pair of front fog lights may be fitted to a motor vehicle with 4 or more wheels.

    (2) A pair of front fog lights, or a single front fog light, may be fitted to a motor cycle or trike.

    (3) A pair of front fog lights fitted to a motor vehicle with 4 or more wheels must have the centre of each light not over 400Êmillimetres from the nearer side of the vehicle unless the centres of the lights are at least 600 millimetres apart.

    (4) If the top of the front fog light is higher than the top of any low-beam headlight on the vehicle, the centre of the fog light must not be higher than the centre of the low-beam headlight.

    (5) A front fog light must--

    (a) when on--

    (i) project white or yellow light in front of the vehicle; and

    (ii) be a low-beam light; and

    (b) be able to be operated independently of any headlight; and

    (c) be fitted so the light from it does not reflect off the vehicle into the driver's eyes.

    - from <a href="http://www.dms.dpc.vic.gov.au/l2d/R/STAT00592/1_1.html" target="_blank">http://www.dms.dpc.vic.gov.au/l2d/R/STAT00592/1_1.html</a>

    I couldn't find the NSW regulations relating to headlights on the NSW RTA web site.

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    Thanks for your efforts Rod.

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