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    I am really keen on purchasing one of these and my main concern in the km's.

    A few seem to pop up every so often on carsales.com and other sited but get snapped up very quickly, they all seem to be 200,000+ km's. I am looking to spend up to $3500 and was wondering if the engine would need an immediate rebuild with this many k's. What were a lot of the main trouble this little engine had that a lot of the collecters have come accross on this site.

    Look forward to hearing any advice you guys can offer.
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    These are not any different from other cars, really. High mileage doesn't necessarily mean the engine is rooted.

    In no particular order

    First of all, the bleeding obvious, drive the car, don't buy sight unseen.

    Check service history, especially cambelt change.

    Stay away from modified cars, check numbers if they don't match, it's a worry.

    Check oil pressure, if it's good, go to the next point. If the oil pressure gauge "doesn't work" for whatever reason, walk away.

    Check the block is not cracked. A lot of home mechanics change heads/gaskets, etc and crack the block especially at the liner base if there is corrosion coming from inside (that's where they corrode). Poor service history and home brewed coolant are not good news. You need to look around the block very carefully though, cracks happen just under the headbolt ends, you need to feel around, or bring a powerful torch and don't be swayed by anyone, look carefully because again, unpleasant surprises can happen, and yes, the car will run (not for long though) with a cracked block. Take it for an extended drive, be suspicious if there is opposition.

    Check all electrics work. That includes warning lights of which there's many.

    Check for rust. I had an unpleasant surprise to find rust in a very odd spot, so it can happen. Pull the carpets up if you can, feel around, poke underneath. You know the drill. Check the heater core. If it's rooted it will leak in your carpet with the associated unpleasantries. It's a nasty exercise to replace it.

    Check all engine hoses/rubbers. All of these are NLA so an expensive exercise to replace with items from overseas.

    For that kind of money you should expect to have some work to do though.

    Be prepared to wait if you like a car but think the price is unrealistic.

    Best idea is to have it inspected by a specialist with no stake in it who knows what they're doing, pay him up, it'll be the best money ever spent.

    These cars attract a lot of young modifying talent that ruins the car and onsells it when bills become unpayable.

    Look for an honest daily driver if you can find one.

    And lastly, there's a lot of knowledge around here, so if you find the car of your dreams don't hesitate to take pictures and come back here. These people will help you.
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    200kms is nothing mine had done that ont he original engine with only a top end rebuild and still had plenty of power with excellent oil pressure

    Its how they have been looked after imho

    Things I would be checking besides what is mentioned above is the rear beam, the water drain lines for cracks (indication on how hard its been driven) they crack and get hairline cracks..

    Check bottem and top of b pillers make sure the heater works on all speeds..

    The price your looking at expect to spend a couple of $$$$ on it well thats if you are chasing a s3 91 onwards anyway

    But you should get a good daily s1 or s2 for that money thats needs minimal work..

    Make sure you see it when the engine is stone cold and look for blue smoke on start up (valve stem seals) it should clear up after a few minutes if it doesn they are completely knackered!!

    Look for oil leaks also all the usual places ie around the sump,starter motor rocker cover etc etc

    Also make sure there is cream in oil cap...

    If there is wipe it away take it for a good long run and see if it comes back....

    Could just be moisture..... but likely the head...

    Another trick there is from cold take the water cap off and let the car idle it should not start to come bubbling out...

    Anyway I could go on all night what to check, but just make sure you check the basics and some of the above...

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    You write a big write up to help and no thanks kiss my arse etc!!

    Jeez bleeding newbies!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gezza View Post
    You write a big write up to help and no thanks kiss my arse etc!!

    Jeez bleeding newbies!!
    I don't want you to feel upset and like you wasted your time so, Kiss my arse Gezza

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    Thanks for the great advice guys, I have a lot to ponder and act on. Will wait a little until I sell my old 406 and get some more money in the bank before I make the plunge. I am up for the fight though, would prefer to buy a cheaper one and spend my time working on it then to buy one in great nick. Takes half the fun out of it.

    Didn't mean to come accross as an arrogant newbie. Honestly didn't expect such a proffessional reply so quickly, so again thanks guys.

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    Rear beam.

    Make sure it hasn't collapsed. If the owner claims its been rebuilt, ask to see a receipt for said work. If not, this could be a point of bargain leverage. I dogged rearbeam ruins 205GTIs.



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