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    Default Importing 106 GTi/Saxo VTS

    I've noticed that a cammed, coilovered 106GTi can be had for around 1300 pounds, or a Saxo VTS with the same work done for around 800 in the UK. I was just wondering what flaming hoops I'd have to jump through if I imported one for road use here (PSA never sold the 106 here because it was too small for our roads)? I've heard postage is around 1000 pounds, is that accurate?

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    The 106 GTi has 88KW stock, with a cam it should be around 105-115, and only weighs 790KG. The power to weight ratio here suggests that with a few more changes such as ITBs, it should even get close to the V8 HSV GTS and similar for a straight line, let alone corners. If it (or the same chassis and engine in the Saxo VTS) could be imported for around $3000, It'd make a perfect weekend or track car, which is what I may be looking for soon enough.

    Any thoughts on costs and difficulties with importing? I think I've seen some Englishmen on here who've moved to Australia. Any of you bring a car with you?

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    I think you will have had to own the car for 12 months to import it on a private scheme. Otherwise it has to be 20 years old or something like that. Your better off spending money on a 205 as they are lighter and more power can be had. ALthough a 106/saxo would be different and great fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam85 View Post
    I think you will have had to own the car for 12 months to import it on a private scheme. Otherwise it has to be 20 years old or something like that. Your better off spending money on a 205 as they are lighter and more power can be had. ALthough a 106/saxo would be different and great fun!

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    Forget saxos or 106's!!

    Get a clio 172 way better car!!

    They aint all that!!

    I have drove a few, even a limited edition evo 180 and it was pooh imho

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    If its pre 89 you need engineers certificate for Aust design rules for its year ,cost about 4000 dollers for roll on roll off ship ,5000 for container .if after 89 forget it unless it qualifies for personal import

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    Quote Originally Posted by julian b View Post
    If its pre 89 you need engineers certificate for Aust design rules for its year ,cost about 4000 dollers for roll on roll off ship ,5000 for container .if after 89 forget it unless it qualifies for personal import

    Wow, I think you should shop around a bit more.

    Last year, it was going to cost me 660 pounds to have the 306 Estate shipped back here RoRo. Unfortunately, my import approval didn't arrive until the day after we sold the car, and 2 days before we returned to Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gezza View Post
    Forget saxos or 106's!!They aint all that!! I have drove a few, even a limited edition evo 180 and it was pooh imho
    You must be very hard to impress, they are amazing cars. Even the humble 1100 cc XN four door versions embarass much more powerful cars. A good 85% of the up to 1600cc rally cars in Greece are 106's (some of the Group A cars pushing 200 bhp) and I am sure their drivers disagree with you. I drove a heavily modified street car for over 10 years and loved it, I then gave it to my mechanic who put a roll cage and seats in it and now uses it for hill climbs. The only downside of the 106 Rallye/GTi models is that they are difficult for an average driver and downright lethal for a novice to drive. Lack of commitment or a change of mind (lift or brake at the turn, among others, for example) will have it swapping ends at light speed. It is very difficult to find one here that has not been in some sort of incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by julian b View Post
    If its pre 89 you need engineers certificate for Aust design rules for its year
    This is incorrect, ADRs that are applicable to pre '89 personal import vehicles depend on which state you live in.

    In South Australia for instance, the ADRs that are applicable are a much reduced subset of those that were applicable to a locally delivered car of the same age.

    Also agree with Scotty regarding shopping around. Admittedly this is 5 years ago but 2 cars shipped in a 40' high cube container cost me around $4000 all up landed. At the time a RORO for a sedan was quoted around 600 pounds so it seems costs haven't gone up significantly, port handling and customs charges at this end would need to be added to the 600 pound figure though.
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    None of them compare to a renault clio 172/182...

    Like for like the clio is the better car

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    I have just checked my invoice for shipping my 504 cab 1 year ago and freight charge was 1085 pounds uk port /customs charge 25 pounds and the rest were aus port charges . total 5500dollars inc 1400 gst on car import so about 4100 to get it here and cleared .you can get a quote from Cargo online which itemizes everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by julian b View Post
    I have just checked my invoice for shipping my 504 cab 1 year ago and freight charge was 1085 pounds uk port /customs charge 25 pounds and the rest were aus port charges . total 5500dollars inc 1400 gst on car import so about 4100 to get it here and cleared .you can get a quote from Cargo online which itemizes everything
    To be fair though, you're unlikely to pay $1400 GST for shipping a 106...
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    Define a better car though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gezza View Post
    None of them compare to a renault clio 172/182...

    Like for like the clio is the better car

    Define a better car though?

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    I just did a rs172 or 182..

    Handles better goe's quicker better std features..

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    This is whats possible with a 106. Great car for tuning and excellent balance and handling.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV7AN80LNHE

    But importing is not that easy;

    1] You need to own the vehicle for a minimum of 12 months in the UK with proof of use and ownership with a corresponding address.

    2] You must have approval prior to any shipping with a plausable reason for importing.

    3] If you get passed 1 & 2 you will then have to pay import duty and GST.

    4] Next is Compliance which will be a bit more difficult as this model was never officialy imported into Oz.

    5] If you get passed all the above you will need to register and pay stamp duty.

    6] Insurance will be specialist only as it is not a recognized model in Oz so someone like Shannons would be your best bet.

    7] You have to own the car in Oz for 12 months from Rego date before you can sell it.


    Reality: Great car that will be very hard to import like everything else thats post 1989.....
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    Wow, I didn't realise how cheap a Clio 172 would be, I didn't even both to look, since here in australia, it cost me $5000 for my 1999 206 GTi last year. It's a shame I couldn't import anything newer than a 205. Might as well look for a 205 here in Australia, or consider the $200 Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 I was offered...

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    Get a 205

    Good luck finding a good one though....

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    The UK car market isn't the "be all"....

    Thing is, cars are cheap there for a reason. The climate there is harsh and the roads are salted - usually finding that they are rusty as all hell underneath!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gezza View Post
    Get a 205

    Good luck finding a good one though....
    Ahh the selection of cars on the east side.... Its tough over there to get a good one hey!

    Glad your enjoying the 172. Did you drive any 182? I have a good friend looking at them..
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    Quote Originally Posted by STALLED View Post
    The UK car market isn't the "be all"....

    Thing is, cars are cheap there for a reason. The climate there is harsh and the roads are salted - usually finding that they are rusty as all hell underneath!
    correct Joel, the fact that they have MUCH more problem with rust than we have is a massive concern when looking at stuff over there....

    But gee they get some great stuff that we dont

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    Cam drove loads in the uk, they are all the same really..


    Yeah its not just underneath that is bad for rust, its the engine bays behind the headlamps etc

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