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    Icon7 205 GTi in Classic Targa Adelaide 2011

    Hi people

    Here is some bumpercam from Classic Targa Adelaide 2011, with pure engine sounds.
    Targa Stage 23 - Norton Summit

    Enjoy

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLsvtBFSDwg

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    Nice one! Thanks for the post. Is it your car?

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    Yes my car, it used to be a dirt rally car, until I rolled it.
    It has now been re-shelled and converted into a tarmac car

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    Quote Originally Posted by RallyPug View Post
    Yes my car, it used to be a dirt rally car, until I rolled it.
    It has now been re-shelled and converted into a tarmac car
    nice, looked like fun

    still an 8v by the tappety sound ?

    considering the near goat track that was being run on i reckon the dirt suspension would have been quite handy lol, i'm thinking my car would bounce around like a cork !

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    Yes still an 8V
    In order to comply with the CAMS tarmac competition regs, its needs to remain an 8V.
    It's far from stock though
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    Fantastic stuff. Good to see some more footage of them getting out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RallyPug View Post
    Yes still an 8V
    In order to comply with the CAMS tarmac competition regs, its needs to remain an 8V.
    It's far from stock though
    nice 205 - i've no problems with 8v's, i like mine when it runs properly and it looks like you were going fast enough

    seemed a long first, i gather you have custom ratios? or is the quaife longer than stock?

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    I bet the 205 set a good time on that road. I for one would be interested in hearing about your suspension,brakes, tyres and how much time it took to reshell!
    Well done
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    Gearbox is a standard BE1, LSD is a Tran-X
    Suspension is Koni adjustable with harder springs in the front.
    Brakes are standard early Series 1 with drums at the back, Ferodo pads
    Tyres are 15' Yokohama A050's
    It took 4 years to rebuild the car. Completed just 15 mins before documentation.

    50mm DMS Gravel suspension (Front & Rear) will be for sale soon as is surplus to requirements

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    Geez, my brakes must be overkill then.
    Did you have to get a whole new cage as well or could you cut it from the old car? Do you think a full cage is critical to stiffness and making the suspension work?
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    GTi 6 front caliper and 205 rear disc conversion is planned. (ran out of time)
    The standard brakes worked fine but I didn't punish them that much (knowing in the back of my mind they were standard). The Ferodo pads were great though.

    I bent the old cage when I rolled the old car, so it is a new seam welded shell with a new full weld in cage.
    Yes a full welded in cage stiffens the whole car and it feels completely different to a standard 205 or one with only a half cage.
    That said the rear beam and front struts only have group N hardened rubber mounts.
    The roll cage does not reach through the firewall to the strut tops as we decided it was unnecessary.
    The box section between the firewall and the strut top is quite rigid. So I am not really sure if having a full weld in cage will "make the suspension work" any better.

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    OK, I am sure you will love the new brakes once they are done.

    I have read many times that a car with significant body flex is pushed around by firmer springs, which need a solid bracing. I am guessing that the ride will become stiffer too. I presume you have a strut brace.
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    Awesome stuff! sounded great. What kind of exhaust system are u running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pug-life View Post
    Awesome stuff! sounded great. What kind of exhaust system are u running?
    although its mainly induction u can hear i was curious anyway...

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    Yes I have a front strutbrace, the overall ride is quite stiff but not rock hard.
    We decided on not making everything rock solid, that might work on a smooth track but not so great for Adelaide roads
    The exhaust & extractors are custom 2.75 inch, muffler is no name brand but works just fine

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    And now for the really important question....


    What camera are you using???
    I like the images and sound and got quite a rise in pulse watching and hearing the clip.

    Jo

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    Being originally from Adelaide, I know what you are saying about the roads. Everytime I go back the goat tracks seem to get worse!

    I also noticed that your car looks road registered - I thought SA roads were super tough on modded cars. Perhaps you keep a low profile...

    Concerning your seats, did you weld in new mounting points on the shell itself? - the standard holes are too weak I find.

    Interesting the the full cage makes the car feel much different. I currently just have a bolt in half cage - no connection between the front and the back, just huge door openings and narrows sill...it makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isis View Post
    I bet the 205 set a good time on that road. I for one would be interested in hearing about your suspension,brakes, tyres and how much time it took to reshell!
    Well done
    My record time is 18 minutes for Norton Summit.





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    The camera is a VIO POV 1.5, now superseded with the VIO POV HD.
    Camera on bonnet, ext mic in engine bay.

    The car is currently road registered, I plan on taking it through Regency on the CAMS DRC (Dedicated Rally Car Scheme) Then no police can defect me.
    I don't drive the car everyday, it's only for competition, so I suppose I do keep a low profile

    When I had the rollcage installed, I also had tube welded to the floor (with steel flat brackets) for mounting the seats.
    The original "hump" where the seats fit was removed as it was deemed too weak.

    Stage time was officially 5:41, 24th fastest out of 59 competitors and 1:41 over the base time allowed.
    (No one cleaned that stage, Weeks and Quinn were both 0:59 over the base time 0f 4:00)

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    Thanks for all the extra info.
    You might know Jim caudle? He's been around the Adelaide rally scene for yonks.
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    Yes Jim's been around for a while.
    He rallied a beautifully presented Datsun 1200 in the Scouts Rally of South Australia this year

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    hi Rallypug,
    You drove past our farm on the Cudlee Creek stage while we were watching, but I was confused by that stage. Half of the cars seemed to be out for a Sunday drive. Given that on the corner on the top of the hill most of the locals always sqeal their tyres and some of them come to grief during ordinary driving, why is it that almost no-one in the rally seemed to be going flat out?

    Jakob and I thought that maybe you were going the reverse way to check out the road before coming back, but then all the cars had gone and no-one came back? Was it a tame section or were you really competing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RallyPug View Post
    Yes Jim's been around for a while.
    He rallied a beautifully presented Datsun 1200 in the Scouts Rally of South Australia this year
    Navigated for Mike Ball in Peter Bianchi's 203 back in the mid 70s.
    I remember Mike? Hobby drove this car as well, it had a 2 litre 504 engine, he later won an SARC round in Peter's 504, with Endrust Rally director Ted Dobrynski navigating.
    Funnily enough Peter rang me today to see if anyone had ever put an auto box into a 203.
    I said that it had been done with a Holden motor but his customer wanted to fit one to a 203 motor!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RallyPug View Post
    Yes Jim's been around for a while.
    He rallied a beautifully presented Datsun 1200 in the Scouts Rally of South Australia this year
    Love the 1200. That's just one of his many toys.
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    Hi Erik
    Cuddlee Creek was a competitive stage, a new one for this years event.
    The fastest cars go last in Targa events, so the speed of the cars should have increased.
    If there's tyre squealing there's usually big problems as the tyres we use are very soft and don't loose traction much.
    The only other reasons for going slowly would be that the corner is after the flying finish, where we are off the accelerator.

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