205 GTI starter motor removal
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    Tadpole
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    Default 205 GTI starter motor removal

    My starter motor has died and I need to remove it and replace it. I've been told by the mechanic that the inlet manifold needs to be removed to gain access, I've read on the internet that you can instead remove the readiator and I've also heard rumours that you don't need to do either of these and you can just 'slip it out' with a little patience (although I can't see how).

    This is my first Peugeot (two weeks and counting) and I've already ploughed $2800 in repairs for the RWC, I just can't afford more mechanic labour costs. Having previously always dealt with MK1 and MK2 Cortinas, I open the bonnet on my 205 and nearly start crying.

    Any help would be hugely appreicated. I would love to be able to leave the inlet manifold on too and just remove the radiator. I want to love this car but it is making it very difficult for me.

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    I use the rediator removal method, I have it down pat now and its quite easy once you know how.

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    Simon, taking off the inlet is not that big a deal. I prefer that way a million times than taking off the radiator. With the radiator you have to upset hoses, drain the system, etc. Messy.

    But you can do it without taking off either. it's just not easy and quite infuriating at times because of the extremely limited access under the inlet.

    There are two types of starter motor from what I have seen. One that has a bracket at the end that bolts tot eh engine block, and one that doesn't have that bracket. The latter is of course easier to take off.

    Just need to make sure you have the correct tools for the job and this is where rather specialised tools are needed (I mean you need some slim and flexible/articulated extensions with a small but deep 13mm socket to take the positive off the solenoid for instance). You also need a short 6mm allen to take off the starter bolt at the g'box end just under the clutch fork, and so on.

    So you see, it may be that by the time you buy all the relevant tools, it may be cheaper to have it done at the mechanic.

    What you want to do is possible, but you need the right tools, and even then it's not a pleasure.

    Don't be scared by the engine compartment. Once you take it out once, you realise it's not that bad by present day standards and still most jobs can be done with the engine in the car.
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    I use the radiator removal method too.

    Remove - Slam panel, grill, driving lights, front bumper, radiator & fans (drain coolant first).

    I got it down to about 16 minutes now as I had a intemittent problem with a starter motor and changed it about 5 times till I found out what the problem was. First time will take a little longer though.

    This method give good clear access.

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    Radiator it is - thanks heaps for all your help.

    The rad support is off at the moment, but I'll wait until the weekend to get into it. I've got a Haynes manual coming in the mail but it won't get here in time. I just hope everything goes back together relatively easily.

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    If you need the chapter on the cooling system from the Haynes before yours arrives, pm me you e-mail address and I can e=mail you a scanned copy


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    yo_ simon, welcome to aussiefrogs, I called your Father on Sunday and suggested to him that you contact this forum, if you need any tools or help make contact with my daughter who lives next door.

    Regards, Tony

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