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    Hi, just a quick question...

    Been looking at a fair few 504's for sale lately, and i am noticing that very few have kerbside (passenger side) mirrors. Where some older models (73-74) have them ,and some later ones (79-80) don't. I guess what I'm trying to say is "why?". Would it be any more difficult in everyday use? (Parking, changing lanes, reversing etc.)

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    My '78 504 Ti [ UK Spec ] only has the drivers side mirror. I think the passanger side mirror was an option and maybe standard for other markets.

    It does not bother me when I am driving as the interior rear view mirror on the 504 has good coverage. Even in our newer cars I still look over my shoulder as there are a lot of idiots who ride my blind spot...

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    The mirrors are reversible and I just put self tappers on the LHS of my cars.

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    Oh, so the left and right hand mirrors are interchangable? Where would you get a mirror from, are they Peugeot specific or were they a more generic part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_95 View Post
    Oh, so the left and right hand mirrors are interchangable? Where would you get a mirror from, are they Peugeot specific or were they a more generic part?
    I bought a pair from EAI in Melbourne a few years ago. While they are interchangeable, what they don't tell you is that while the RHS one is horizontal the LHS one must be mounted vertically. The car looked a little odd with asymmetrical mirrors so I returned them for a refund. I ended up with a pair from Repco that are plastic but look ok and are cheap enough to replace every few years if necessary. They are both flat glass but I would prefer the LHS one to be convex for a wider field of view.

    My 81 504 came with only a RHS mirror.
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    The right and the left are totally interchangeable and are a mirror image of each other......now I know for certainty that this is the case for the late mirrors and I believe it to be the case for the early style of mirror that came out of the factory.
    They certainly do not need to be mounted vertically if we are talking genuine mirrors.....aftermarket I have no idea.

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    The ones I bought were Peugeot branded. They were not a mirrored pair, but identical. There was no way that I could get the LHS mirror head mounted horizontally. When I rang EAI to check if I should have been sent a mirrored pair they confirmed that the mirrors were identical and that the horizontal/vertical mounting was how they were supposed to be.
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    Did you try moving the arm that comes up from the door? It does move and I have never had to have a LHS mirror vertical. That said,rocking horse poo is more common! Neil

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    I just bought a pair for my 604 (504 mirrors are correct for a very early 604 like mine).
    I got them from here
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310337106215
    this seller seems to have a good supply of them
    I suppose it will be a week or two before they arrive yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselnutjob View Post
    I just bought a pair for my 604 (504 mirrors are correct for a very early 604 like mine).
    I got them from here
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310337106215
    this seller seems to have a good supply of them
    I suppose it will be a week or two before they arrive yet
    I think that it would be a little difficult to get them to Australia... But if i do end up getting one (a 504) with a single mirror I'll just have to see how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_95 View Post
    Oh, so the left and right hand mirrors are interchangeable? Where would you get a mirror from, are they Peugeot specific or were they a more generic part?

    The early 504s came with only one door mounted mirror fitted.

    The mirrors are identical left or right.

    The same Australian made mirrors were also fitted to Renaults of the same era, as both makes were manufactured in Victoria in the same factory. The mirrors were fitted to the cars to build up the Australian content. (Has anyone heard of Australian made content?).

    SO, get down to your friendly Reno wrecker and find a Peugeot mirror.

    Good Luck

    PS I can remember when cars only had one internally mounted rear vision mirror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_95 View Post
    Hi, just a quick question...

    Been looking at a fair few 504's for sale lately, and i am noticing that very few have kerbside (passenger side) mirrors. Where some older models (73-74) have them ,and some later ones (79-80) don't. I guess what I'm trying to say is "why?". Would it be any more difficult in everyday use? (Parking, changing lanes, reversing etc.)

    Thanks in advance
    Thomas
    G'day Thomas,

    I don't think having a passenger side mirror helps that much in day to day driving. I've just finished painting the doors on my 504, and I ended up removing the passenger mirror I put on a few years ago.
    I wouldn't get too worried about having one.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGRR View Post

    PS I can remember when cars only had one internally mounted rear vision mirror.

    Go on, pull the other one!

    Next you'll be telling us that you used your hand, draped out the window, to signal your intentions to turn right?



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    Quote Originally Posted by con View Post
    Go on, pull the other one!

    Next you'll be telling us that you used your hand, draped out the window, to signal your intentions to turn right?



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    Those chrome mirrors on ebay look very nice. It's about time I ditched the ugly plastic 504 mirrors that came on my model.

    Going on my watch list until friday. Hopefully he'll post to Australia.

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    My US version 1974 504GL has trapezoidal mirrors on both sides and each could be put into any position horizontal or vertical. From my perspective these should be mounted horizontally with the wider end of trapezoid furthest from the car (to mirror the shape of trapezoidal headlights and the car in general). I see many photos of 504s however in which the mirrors seem to be turned around, wide end in, maybe I'm missing something.

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    My mirrors turned up and they are definitely CIPA ones as fitted by Peugeot originally. However I also have the same problem that the nearside one just won't adjust far enough in.

    I am wondering if Peugeot didn't design them to go on the passenger side as it wasn't common in the 70s.

    The "Rolls Royce" still ones I had on my other 604 don't have this problem as they can fold right back even flat onto the side of the car (useful when parked on the street).

    Anyway as the previous owner had drilled holes and fitted a mirror on the passenger side I guess I'll have to either modify the mirror, ignore it, or look for some "Rolls Royce" style ones.

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    Of my 504s, one (my first) didn't have a LH mirror, so I got used to driving without one.

    A pedestrian with a pushbike ran out in front of me without looking once in my 2nd 504 and I clean him up down the left-hand side of the car, stripping me of the mirror, but thankfully stripping the reckless gentleman of nothing more than his personal sense of safety when plunging blindly onto the bitumen.

    My current 504s both have LHS mirrors but I can't recall using them. In fact, since I keep the cars covered they often get pulled in all sorts of directions when uncovering and I only bother adjusting the drivers side one for vision, so I would definitely say the LHS mirror is superfluous and potentially cosmetic.

    Considering the above incident it is a potential hazard, though I've never hit anything that didn't leap at me from the footpath pushing a BMX!...

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    I like having a passenger side mirror though and want it to be useable.

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    the left side mirror on my 504 cab [the same as sedans] wont adjust far enough in to see the side of the car . if it had convex glass it would solve that problem ,and be more usefull in traffic

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    Quote Originally Posted by julian b View Post
    the left side mirror on my 504 cab [the same as sedans] wont adjust far enough in to see the side of the car . if it had convex glass it would solve that problem ,and be more usefull in traffic

    jules,
    The limited mirror adj on the cabriolet is to discourage the narcissistic owners from perving on themselves.

    Take your mirror to a glazier. They may fit a convex glass for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by callipygous View Post
    Those chrome mirrors on ebay look very nice. It's about time I ditched the ugly plastic 504 mirrors that came on my model.

    Going on my watch list until friday. Hopefully he'll post to Australia.
    The mirrors that I bought are larger than the originals. The seller does seem to have smaller ones which I think are correct. As I bought a pair it doesn't matter.

    I have no idea what my mirrors were meant for originally, was there a 504 derivative (wagon or something) which had larger mirrors?

    I think that the normal ones have a grey plastic pad where it is screwed to the door, and around the glass. Mine have black plastic.

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