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    Hi all,

    I am looking to buy a new car for myself and have narrowed the choice down to either a Mazda 3 SP23 or a Peugeot 207 GTi.
    Based on my likes and wants the Pug eats the Mazda for breakfast but there's one reservation I have and that is reliability. Back in 2000 I bought a 1995 Holden Barina GSI which broke down regularly on me and I don;t want to go through that again.

    I am willing to live with the odd grizzle that a 207 might bring but don;t want to be struggling to start it up every time I want to go somewhere.

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    Based on real world experience, how reliable is the 207 GTi? Also, is it expensive to service?

    Thanks for the answers in advance,

    Macchina

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    Quote Originally Posted by macchina View Post
    ... Based on real world experience, how reliable is the 207 GTi? Also, is it expensive to service?

    Thanks for the answers in advance,

    Macchina
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    My 207 GTi will be a year out of warranty in a few months and nothing serious has fallen off or broken so far. I had misgivings about buying a "continental" car, but thought the risk was worth it just to have something a bit different. And it was!

    It's been used as a daily, with a few lengthy breaks; done several longer cruises, both cruisy and "spirited"; and it's done some irregular track time. Servicing has been "by the book", or better.

    Service costs will vary depending on where it's done. A local garage that knows french cars is you best bet. I expect the service costs are comparable to other similar cars.

    The biggest problem with the car is that it seems to find the long way to many destinations, especially if twisty bits are involved.

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    And also the THP engine has its own share of problems (also found on cooper S, 207 GT and other cars as they share the same engine).

    Apparently the engine will go out of timing and show a "De-pollution fault". PSA and BMW has since released a kit to fix this timing problem and I think most of them were fixed under warranty by now?

    There are a few threads somewhere in this forum talking about the THP engine issue.... Run a search with "207 GTI" here and might find them..

    Apart from that, I am sure the car itself it a very rewarding drive. I also love the way a 207 looks and wanting one myself except I don't have $$$.

    As for the Mazda, my dad has a Mazda3 and the Mazda 3 shares the same platform as the Ford Focus. His car has been reliable since day 1.
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    Absolutely no reliability issues, but have only travelled 40,000 in 2.5 years.
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    We own an SP23, and while it probably wont go as hard as a gti, I cant fault it. Being a mazda 6 engine in a mazda 3, its a pretty simple design. No turbos to worry about etc. Its the best car i have ever owned. Considering the thousands of $$ I have spent on my pug gti (not a 207), apart from routine servicing, the money I spend on the Mazda = $0

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    By the way anyone from Peugeot Australia Marketing department reading this thread will no doubt be thrilled by the comparison with an unreliable 1995 Holden Barina GSI ..... : )

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    So what you're all telling me is to buy the Mazda

    I liked the way the Peugeot drove, my mother has an SP23 (albiet an auto) which is great for comparison purposes.
    I did find an article which said that the 207 was rated as the most reliable car in Europe, I tend to take those things with a grain of salt though.
    How much can I expect to pay for a basic service at a Peugeot specialist? Where are the specialists in Melbourne?

    I am leaning towards one of these as they have all the qualities I like in a car.

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    The last line says it all buy the 207 : )

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    Its a no brainer!!

    207 gti for the win!!

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    I've had mine since Christmas Eve 2007. I've now done 87k in it and it has been extremely well-behaved, despite the common faults that you read about.

    No timing, turbo or rattle issues and other than a new rear hatch catch and a bonnet cable, nothing has been replaced other than service items like oil, filters and tyres, etc.
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    Personally I will get the 207 GTI despite all these timing issues.

    Gotta have at least 1 Peugeot GTI in your whole life.

    Whereabouts are you? There's a sticky thread here showing all the Melbourne mechanics.
    But Auto Paris, Alpine Affaire, SIMS Motors and Spencer Street Autos are the popular ones (not in any order, just named them randomly).
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    Like I said above, I own an SP23, but I dont blame you for getting a Gti. If you are younger and want a fun car, the 207 is the way to go. I am older and need a reliable car that I can carry a family around , with occasional squirt when I need it, therefore the mazda makes sense for me.
    Of course I fix the prob by having a gti as a second car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KK Puggy View Post
    Of course I fix the prob by having a gti as a second car.


    buy the SP23 then get a car with the same amount of fun as a 207 GTI that's cheaper than a 207GTI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KK Puggy View Post
    Like I said above, I own an SP23, but I dont blame you for getting a Gti. If you are younger and want a fun car, the 207 is the way to go. I am older and need a reliable car that I can carry a family around , with occasional squirt when I need it, therefore the mazda makes sense for me.
    Of course I fix the prob by having a gti as a second car.
    G'day,
    I am older than every one, the family has gone, [one has returned], I wanted a reliable fun car. Could be middle age crisis, or in my case, old age crisis.
    My first choice was a PRB clubman. Try telling your family that!

    Any way, I am happy my final choice.

    Buy the car you like, you have to drive it and live with it, [and your family]. They will come around.

    You could always buy a bike ...

    I have two.
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    I've had my 207 for 6 months now. Not one problem at all.
    Loads of gear I've never experinced before,and the car just goes
    briliantly.

    Get one!!
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    I have all but decided to get one IF I can get a competitive insurance quote. So far, I have not been able to better $1150.

    Can anyone recommend an insurer (or if there's an existing thread on this board, can I be directed to it)?

    I even tried to compare quotes to a 207 GT but there is almost no difference in the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macchina View Post
    I have all but decided to get one IF I can get a competitive insurance quote...
    Give Shannons a shot, they came up with the best deal for me, and by a decent margin.

    btw I imagine the SP23 wouldn't be much different insurance wise?
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    How old are you and which part of which city do you live in? How much do you pay for your current car. It sounds reasonable for the type of car as TimOzSF suggests.

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    If I where buying a new hotter hatch, Renault have this market cornered. The Clio and Megane are awesome cars.

    My thoughts on the matter.



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    I live in the SE suburbs and am nearly 30.

    I like the Clio Sport too, but it's a very full on car and not as easy to live with on a day to day basis as the Pug.

    What are parts prices like? Are there any sites where I can import my own OEM/aftermarket parts?

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    ebay UK has abundance of Pug parts and European Auto Imports (EAI) in box hill also has parts for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macchina View Post
    I live in the SE suburbs and am nearly 30.

    I like the Clio Sport too, but it's a very full on car and not as easy to live with on a day to day basis as the Pug.

    What are parts prices like? Are there any sites where I can import my own OEM/aftermarket parts?
    what did you end up getting???

    for the RS stuff, try k-tec in the UK, they seem to have a pretty good rep

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