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    could someone tell me the correct Ryco oil filter no for an early 404 ? I obtained a Z142A but the thread is larger,I believe it fits the later motors. Thanks Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxy View Post
    could someone tell me the correct Ryco oil filter no for an early 404 ? I obtained a Z142A but the thread is larger,I believe it fits the later motors. Thanks Max
    The Ryco filters for the screw housing on the 404 are Z69. These fit 1969 and 1970 disc brake cars.

    However Purflux 152? are a far better filter and are obtainable from Caravelle Imports or EAI. I would not use a Ryco filter personally.

    If your car is a earlier than 1969, I believe the early 403/404 cartridge type filters (the type with a "bowl" over the filter) are unobtainable.

    Peugeot Car Club Vic have a member who does a modifications to accept a screw on oil filter.

    The other option may be to fit a later a oil filter housing with the screw on filter the same as 504 and XN 505. You would need to make spacers to refit the dynamo.

    I'm not sure if the filter housings are directly interchangeable on the block, as far as I know they are.


    You have me confused with "early" because the early models had the cartridge type filters.

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    The early cartridge filters are available on ebay at high cost from Argentina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Hall View Post
    The early cartridge filters are available on ebay at high cost from Argentina.
    Thanks for the info Russell. I was unaware.

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    the car is a ''66 but could be a different motor--it has the early type dipstick (not extended)--definitely a screwon filter, a blue French made coded LS152B, but a smaller thread than the later filter. sounds as if the Z69 might be right. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxy View Post
    the car is a ''66 but could be a different motor--it has the early type dipstick (not extended)--definitely a screwon filter, a blue French made coded LS152B, but a smaller thread than the later filter. sounds as if the Z69 might be right. Thanks.
    How many times have we talked about the dangers of non genuine filters? Stick to LS152B it isn't hard.
    We have them in stock for $16.50 but there available from every Pug specialist.

    We've talked about those filters not holding oil pressure, but a workshop near me used to service a 504 and one day they asked me how do I stop the filters leaking oil, they said that no matter how tight the tighten them every filter they fit leaks.
    My answer was, we only use Purflux, they fitted one and no more oil leak.

    Why do people insist on using non gen?
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    And at $16.50, there is no financial reason to buy inferior either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post
    How many times have we talked about the dangers of non genuine filters? Stick to LS152B it isn't hard.
    We have them in stock for $16.50 but there available from every Pug specialist.

    We've talked about those filters not holding oil pressure, but a workshop near me used to service a 504 and one day they asked me how do I stop the filters leaking oil, they said that no matter how tight the tighten them every filter they fit leaks.
    My answer was, we only use Purflux, they fitted one and no more oil leak.

    Why do people insist on using non gen?
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    However Purflux 152? are a far better filter and are obtainable.....

    Apologies Dave, I'll put you on the supplier list next time. I tend to think of you business as a used car parts supplier.

    I wouldn't have a Z69 on my mind let alone an engine.

    However, the decision lies with OP.

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    The Ryco Z69 filters are now made in Seth Efrica. Almost $30 last time I looked !

    The only oil filter I had that leaked was a Ryco Z69.
    While it's stuck in my brain. R267P was the number of the Ryco element type filter on early Peugeots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest View Post
    The Ryco Z69 filters are now made in Seth Efrica. Almost $30 last time I looked !

    The only oil filter I had that leaked was a Ryco Z69.
    While it's stuck in my brain. R267P was the number of the Ryco element type filter on early Peugeots.
    I bought a Ryco fuel filter for my Si, made in China.
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    Chinese filters, they screen out particles to 7000 microns, eh?

    Peugeot ordered a large run of new 203-403-404 filters from Purflux a few years back and I bought 15 or so, maybe they still have some??
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    The Peugeot dealers in Australia have no interest in supplying parts for any but the newest cars. I did try a big organization once as to what parts they could get for the 203. They never rang back which I think said it all. The main aftermarket supplier of parts (EAI) simply says the filters are unavailable. Hard to believe given the number of cars still in existence which require the cartridge. In the 1970's the concessionaire, Renault Australia, would go to a lot of trouble chasing parts for old or rare Peugeots. Different times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Hall View Post
    The Peugeot dealers in Australia have no interest in supplying parts for any but the newest cars. I did try a big organization once as to what parts they could get for the 203. They never rang back which I think said it all. The main aftermarket supplier of parts (EAI) simply says the filters are unavailable. Hard to believe given the number of cars still in existence which require the cartridge. In the 1970's the concessionaire, Renault Australia, would go to a lot of trouble chasing parts for old or rare Peugeots. Different times.
    I was amazed that last year Regan's got me some parts for 404 wet struts, the exact part escapes me at moment, it took 5 days from France. The price was reasonable considering the delivery method and rarity.

    The key to getting it was to give them a Peugeot part number, after that the computer does the rest.

    They have no listing of early part number locally, but search Peugeot stock once they have the number.

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    Regans was the place I tried, I thought if anyone could find out what early parts were available they could, but they just weren't interested.
    Around 1974 a bloke in Tasmania got in touch with Heidelberg about parts for a 202 he'd found. Needed just about everything. Nothing was held here so they got in touch with New Caledonia but nothing there either. They contacted Peugeot in France who couldn't help with new parts but arranged the supply of everything needed from a wrecker. Now that was service from an organization that could be bothered.

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    Is the 404 cartridge the same as the 403/ 203?
    I just ordered one from here:

    http://www.veteranen-fischer.de/scri...dex.php?lng=en

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    It is indeed. So I wonder why they are unavailable in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Hall View Post
    It is indeed. So I wonder why they are unavailable in Australia.
    They have probably got a lot of old stock.
    They also have engine bearings for 403/203 wonder if that is NOS or new production.
    No one has diff seals unfortunately, this is going to be a real problem in the future, even for the 60th Redex Rerun in 2013.
    I gave a good used seal to Don Tracey on Friday so he could do the Cape York trip in his 203 panel van.
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    Neoretro has diff seals (if you mean the graphite one on the nose of the worm). I got one from them recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS View Post
    They have probably got a lot of old stock.
    They also have engine bearings for 403/203 wonder if that is NOS or new production.
    No one has diff seals unfortunately, this is going to be a real problem in the future, even for the 60th Redex Rerun in 2013.
    I gave a good used seal to Don Tracey on Friday so he could do the Cape York trip in his 203 panel van.
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    What are the dimensions of the diff seal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commerciale View Post
    Neoretro has diff seals (if you mean the graphite one on the nose of the worm). I got one from them recently.
    That's the one I ordered one from Neo Retro a couple of months back and they couldn't supply.
    Hopefully they have them back in stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exfrogger View Post
    Graham

    What are the dimensions of the diff seal?

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    They are a special spring loaded graphite type seal, I have tried bearing supply places and no one had seen anything like it.
    Bit like a water pump seal.

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    I will be in Paris early next week. I can check with Station 50 (Neoretro's retail outlet in Paris).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commerciale View Post
    I will be in Paris early next week. I can check with Station 50 (Neoretro's retail outlet in Paris).
    That would be great, thanks.
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