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    Default engine oil for 206 gti 180

    in the manual it says to only uses 5w-40 oil synthetic but i cant find any. closest i saw was 10w-40. anyone know where i can find this or if any other oils are fine to use?

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    No, 5W-40 is compulsory for the GTi180 (which also implies synthetic oil only), because a lot of 10W-40 oils tend to be semi-synthetic.

    You can also use 0W-40 oils, though they tend to be more expensive.

    But I'm surprised that you couldn't find any suitable oils, as 5W-40 isn't (or shouldn't be) that rare in Sydney. I think you just need to try a different suburb.

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    The "XW-YY" refers to the viscosity. The thickness of the oil becomes lower in high temperatures. Therefore, I think 10W40 would be fine if you're in a hot climate. I haven't been to Sydney since I was a kid so I wouldn't know what the weather is like there. Here in the tropics my 206 GTi feels fine on 10W40, and the only difference between these engines is a dephaser on the cams (right?). SuperCheap here in Cairns keeps Nulon fully synthetic 10W40, it costs the same for 4L for my car as changing the oil in a V6, but that's not bad compared to finding the recommended Total product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blufires View Post
    The "XW-YY" refers to the viscosity. The thickness of the oil becomes lower in high temperatures. Therefore, I think 10W40 would be fine if you're in a hot climate.
    10W40 is fine for a GTi, but unsuitable for a GTi180.

    Where are you looking?

    Autobarn or the rapidly spreading Burson seems to have a good range of oils. Supercheap or KMart do not have a very good range (but should at least sell Shell Helix Ultra).

    I used to use Elf Excellium GP in my GTi180, but Penrite, Shell or even Valvoline make 5W40 oils that are not hard to find.

    It's not that cheap - and remember you'll need 5.5 litres for an oil change (approximately).
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    Shell Helix Ultra is 5-40, in a grey container available Repco , Auto Bahn and Supercheap remmeber you will need the 5 litre container and a 1 litre to complete a full change.

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    I think the Castrol is better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doush_504 View Post
    I think the Castrol is better
    Unfortunately, the only Castrol 5W40 oil available in Australia is sold under the "Magnatec Professional" monicker and is only sold to workshops in 200L quantities.
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    Try calling Scott at motor oil australia 0418 675 761 they sell Total Oil

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    its ok i found some at supercheap kmart and bp didnt have any which is why i started to wonder whether id find it. i only need to top the oil up as its at the min level now ill just get my mate whos a mechanic to show me so i dont flood the thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blufires View Post
    Here in the tropics my 206 GTi feels fine on 10W40, and the only difference between these engines is a dephaser on the cams (right?).
    Actually, the differences between the EW10J4 (GTi) and the EW10J4S (GTi180) are quite substantial, as seen here - http://206gti.net/206rc-info/

    Peugeot are quite adamant that you use 5W-40 in the EW10J4S, which may (or may not) be related to oil viscosity and its relationship with VVT operation, so I think anything thicker than a 5W-40 may not be suitable - regardless of ambient temperature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_vert View Post
    Actually, the differences between the EW10J4 (GTi) and the EW10J4S (GTi180) are quite substantial, as seen here - http://206gti.net/206rc-info/

    Peugeot are quite adamant that you use 5W-40 in the EW10J4S, which may (or may not) be related to oil viscosity and its relationship with VVT operation, so I think anything thicker than a 5W-40 may not be suitable - regardless of ambient temperature.
    Wow, that is quite a few differences. I haven't heard of those before now, I wonder why VVT is the only feature people go on about, the forged crank and pistons and the head and exhaust work are more impressive

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    Anyone run Redline 5W40? Should be good given the price.
    Got a track meeting Saturday and it's going to be 40 deg C.
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    Have used Redline products in the past, like when they where one of the few with fully synthetic oils. Basically used them in Group N Rally cars to try and lower/stabilise oil temps. We would turn mineral oils Black and Smoking with in 30 minutes or 50 km competitive depending on the conditions....road nature, temperature, driver Red Mist level etc.
    Redline do a radiator additive that is pretty neat, it breaks the surface tension of the coolant and therefore helps heat transfer. It's called Water Wetter. I'd also use a 33% Glycol to water ratio to aid in heat rejection....then after the event return to the normal ratio if it's higher.
    Hopefully Brett I'm not telling you 'How to Suck Eggs' but for the other viewers! Adelaide's water is very hard so it is really not a brilliant idea to use it your cooling system, proves that electrolysis is V bad. Distilled water is best, de-mineralised then rain water from a plastic tank.
    Take a 20 litre container of water and one of those big pump up sprayers, the type used by Gung-ho gardener types. Magic for dropping radiator temperature as the fine mist into the radiator with the engine running at a fast idle and the thermo fans going aids the temperature removal.
    Brendan.
    ps My step sons did a Track Day a couple of weeks ago at Winton and it was mid 30C's. The week prior was 40 to 45C and every bit of oil, petrol and greasy slime got boiled to the surface. The tyres skated across the surface and they had SFA grip, the tread face looked like it was attacked with a belt sander with the feathering. Looked exactly like Cold Graining just the opposite end of the temperature scale.

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    Thanks

    Oil, wetter and 50/50 water glycol as per bottle instructions.
    I also grabbed u pump up sprayer.
    Bathurst______2 57.22 Sandown_______1 35.29
    Mallala_______1 22.90 Phillip Island____1 56.41
    Winton_______1.43.90 Collingrove_______38.08
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    engine oil for 206 gti 180-imageuploadedbyaussiefrogs1391821503.099480.jpg
    Got to Mallala
    Announcement was made for all drivers to drivers briefing.
    The announcement was then made the meeting was cancelled due to danger of fire escaping boundaries of track.
    Bathurst______2 57.22 Sandown_______1 35.29
    Mallala_______1 22.90 Phillip Island____1 56.41
    Winton_______1.43.90 Collingrove_______38.08
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluey504 View Post
    Have used Redline products in the past, like when they where one of the few with fully synthetic oils. Basically used them in Group N Rally cars to try and lower/stabilise oil temps. We would turn mineral oils Black and Smoking with in 30 minutes or 50 km competitive depending on the conditions....road nature, temperature, driver Red Mist level etc.
    Redline do a radiator additive that is pretty neat, it breaks the surface tension of the coolant and therefore helps heat transfer. It's called Water Wetter. I'd also use a 33% Glycol to water ratio to aid in heat rejection....then after the event return to the normal ratio if it's higher.
    Hopefully Brett I'm not telling you 'How to Suck Eggs' but for the other viewers! Adelaide's water is very hard so it is really not a brilliant idea to use it your cooling system, proves that electrolysis is V bad. Distilled water is best, de-mineralised then rain water from a plastic tank.
    Never been to Adelaide but the water at NT was bloody disgusting, tasted like chlorinated water. We in Sydney are spoilt as shit with our purified water.

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    just ordered 3x5L bottles of Total quartz 9000,
    $164 free freight to metro Sydney. A price I saw last time on a post here was $41 per 5L this is like $54 ugh. But I paid $67 for 5L down at Peter Warren.

    Pretty cheap if you ask me. 5W40 stuff at Repco was > $60, Mobil stuff I had was about $72 if i remember correctly. Edit: Was from Elf Oil btw
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    Just curious. I've been using Penrite HPR5 5w40 for years in my 2L 307. And it seems fine. I buy it at Supercheap and got it for about $50 for 5L last time. The car has just gone 220k with no (engine) problems so far. Oil & filter change every 10k.

    Anyone else using this product?

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    Penrite HPR 5 Engine Oil - 5W-40, 5 Litre - Supercheap Auto Australia
    $55 from SCA, I was going to buy it but I could have sworn it said 60



    http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf

    i remember i skimmed through this once - not too sure how reliable the results are but the penrite got good reviews, and that was semi-synthetic at the time of the test.

    My understanding so far is that engine oils are marketed just like anything else. And unless you go out of your way to get royal purple or the neo stuff, then it doesn't make a big difference. Only reason I got total is that its free shipping and its pretty cheap compared to stuff ive seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lion5 View Post
    Never been to Adelaide but the water at NT was bloody disgusting, tasted like chlorinated water. We in Sydney are spoilt as shit with our purified water.
    The water in the NT is rain water that has been collected or draw from pools. It could (will)contain pathogens, viruses, Croc poo and all brewed to a fetid solution in the balmy environment. Of course it tastes like swimming pool water, got to kill the bugs some how. UV light purification is the new answer and really easy to install, it can be in multiple locations such as after holding tanks or during long pipeline runs. Melbourne Water use it and it seems to be a very effective approach.
    Last time I was in Sydney you couldn't drink the water or clean your teeth because the water had 'nasty' bugs in it. Very decadent cleaning my manky teeth with Mineral water, Evian no less!
    Sorry to hear about the event cancellation Brett but safety does come first. Have been at both Sandown and Winton when they have had fires. Winton was a couple of years ago and in Feb when a RX7 PP spun off and the exhaust set fire to the in-field. Sandown was decades ago when some F'knuckle knocked over a BBQ out the back of Rothmans Rise, that'll date it! Bloody thing went up twice before they put it out completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lion5 View Post
    just ordered 3x5L bottles of Total quartz 9000,
    $164 free freight to metro Sydney. A price I saw last time on a post here was $41 per 5L this is like $54 ugh. But I paid $67 for 5L down at Peter Warren.

    Pretty cheap if you ask me. 5W40 stuff at Repco was > $60, Mobil stuff I had was about $72 if i remember correctly. Edit: Was from Elf Oil btw
    Hey sorry to bring up an old thread but where did you manage to get hold of the Quartz9000 from? I just got a box of 3x5L for $180

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    i cant remember exactly
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    from onshore I bought LDS fluide, I can't seem to find the dets for the set of 3 i bought

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    Thanks mate I'll look into both of them, personally really impressed with Quartz 9000, wouldn't go back to using anything else in my GTi180

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    I just walked into Total oils in Port Melbourne, purchased a 20L drum of Quartz 9000 for $200. Seemed like good value to me.

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    Default GTI180 Engine differences.

    There are some big differences between GTI and GTI180. But a forged crank is not one of them they have a spheroidal graphite crank and forged steel rods and Mahle pistons but sadly not a forged crank.

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