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    G'day everyone
    Last summer during a trip to Germany, I had the pleasure to spend a day at the Peugeot museum in Sochaux - France in addition to an exclusive 3 hour stay in the Peugeot archive where I got to photocopy a few nice documents (504 only ).
    I have some detailed pics for 504-505-604-605-305-205 and many many others (I took 490 photos that day). So, in case anyone is interested, just give the model you would like me to start with a yell .
    I also have plenty of random shots of Pugs in the streets of Germany, Switzerland, Austria and France but they are mainly modern models except for a 205 and a 306 CC.

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    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    That would be fantastic. It's amazing how there are absolutely no 504s around in France, I was so disappointed! I would love to see some 504 pics though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jocksjocks View Post
    That would be fantastic. It's amazing how there are absolutely no 504s around in France, I was so disappointed! I would love to see some 504 pics though!
    I saw one on the "Autoroute" from Paris to Sochaux but it was on the other way so I didn't have the time to pull my camera & take a shot
    Well then, I'll start with the 504
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    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    For those wondering what a brand new 504 interior looks like, here is the answer









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    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    some 205 pict's would be nice
    regards jamie

    series 2 405 mi16
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    series 1 205 gti
    series 3 205 with a gti6 motor project
    1970 404 ute 504 ti motor project
    parts cars 2 205 si's 306 sedan
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1pugnut View Post
    some 205 pict's would be nice
    regards jamie
    Sure


















    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    And some 205 rally champions:







    Last edited by Doush_504; 3rd April 2011 at 12:37 AM.
    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    erm, how were you able to get in the cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BentEight504 View Post
    erm, how were you able to get in the cars?
    To make a long story short, they know my Grandfather and his brother
    and not only they allowed me to enter the cars, they also opened the 504 bonnet for me and let me in the Archive
    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    Although there seems a lack of interest but nevertheless here are some under the bonnet pics of the 504











    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    No lack of interest, we're all just admiring them quietly and planning our trips to Sochaux!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pug303 View Post
    No lack of interest, we're all just admiring them quietly and planning our trips to Sochaux!
    Now I am blushing
    Any specific model you would like to see ??
    I still have a lot but I am just being democratic and putting what people ask for
    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doush_504 View Post
    Now I am blushing
    Any specific model you would like to see ??
    I still have a lot but I am just being democratic and putting what people ask for
    505 please!
    Goonengerry 505


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    show us pictures of the archive
    it is very hard to get in to
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomevans View Post
    505 please!
    A very nice choice indeed
    I'll start with the Dangel & the SXD and I hope you enjoy.










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    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    And now the sexy ones





    And my favourite 505 ...





    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    Quote Originally Posted by jurgen_s View Post
    show us pictures of the archive
    it is very hard to get in to
    It is very hard indeed and even when inside cameras are not welcome, but they allowed me to take a couple of quick shots.

    A quick explanation: the archive is basically a big library with a section for each car Peugeot ever made. It is located in another building next to the museum with restricted public access. I got disappointed to know that they would have taken me for a tour inside the factory itself if it wasn't closed (August vacation) and another tour to see the stored cars (remember that what's displayed is only a small fraction of what they have) but that also was closed because the responsible was on vacation.

    Mrs. Josiane Eymann the responsible for historical documentation and I agreed to meet in the museum at 1.30 pm and then w headed towards the other building. There are no words that could describe describe how I felt while stepping into the archive, simply magnificent. Of course I was most interested for the 504 section because it is the oldest of our pugs and the hardest to get documents for and being short on time (believe me, 3 hours in that place are nothing) I couldn't pass by the other sections. Mrs.Eymann was kind enough to get me all the boxes (a dozen boxes ) related to petrol 504s containing technical reviews, ads, comparisons vs competitors ... etc. She was also extremely nice to allow me to stay for an extra hour as the archive closes at 4pm and by the time I started reading it was 2 so I stayed till 5 pm. I photocopied a bunch of documents including a complete explanation of the 504 A/C system (never dreamt I could find such a thing) all are in french unfortunately for non French speakers except a "Method of replacing cylinder liners and pistons on 504 engines". I could scan those in case anyone is interested but not before 2-3 weeks as my midterms are coming soon. I took photos of some other documents that I can post here but of course they are in French.

    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    How cool Chadi! You are lucky. I love the French seats in the 504. I had one with those seats and they are brilliant.

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    Chadi
    What a great experience you've had.
    But WE HERE should be exceptionally grateful for your being willing and happy to share it all with us. My sincere thanks for what you've shown us so far, and for what might be still to come.
    The 504 a/c system explanation would be worth having. SOMEONE will have a go at translating it!
    Kind regards
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    604 pics please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James S View Post
    How cool Chadi! You are lucky. I love the French seats in the 504. I had one with those seats and they are brilliant.
    You mean the ones with the retractable head rests ? I think what you guys got is called the tombstone, right ?
    My preference would be the late model seats (early 505 style) like those


    Quote Originally Posted by stringybark View Post
    Chadi
    What a great experience you've had.
    But WE HERE should be exceptionally grateful for your being willing and happy to share it all with us. My sincere thanks for what you've shown us so far, and for what might be still to come.
    The 504 a/c system explanation would be worth having. SOMEONE will have a go at translating it!
    Kind regards
    Al
    It was an amazing experience indeed and I am delighted to share it with you guys and thank you for your kind words.
    There is a lot to come so stay tuned .
    About the 504 A/C, well I'll try to scan it after my midterms and I could even give it a ty to translate it (but not before summer) but I think the main problem would be the detailed technical terms. Anyway the moment I scan it, it will be uploaded God willing.
    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselnutjob View Post
    604 pics please!
    And here comes the 604, where is Pugrambo ?



    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    when I visited the 'Atelier' (where they restore the old cars) they told us that they help people in restoring the old peugeots. So yes indeed, you can get all sorts of tech documentation and also old parts.

    They have also another archive where all the other cars stand that are not in the museum.
    www.peugeotforum.be
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    Did you get any pictures of the 104?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jurgen_s View Post
    when I visited the 'Atelier' (where they restore the old cars) they told us that they help people in restoring the old peugeots. So yes indeed, you can get all sorts of tech documentation and also old parts.

    They have also another archive where all the other cars stand that are not in the museum.
    Like I said the Atelier was closed as was the factory and they told me they sell parts but I hadn't planed it and I was running out of luggage weight.
    Quote Originally Posted by danielsydney View Post
    Did you get any pictures of the 104?
    Unfortunately that's all I have
    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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