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    Default 308 XTS falls victim to timing chain issue

    last week for no apparent reason the XTS lost all power. at first i though it was that over boosting issue it had 6 months ago rearing its head again after the dealer fixed it. but this time the car felt even slower and the issue would not reset its self

    i took it to the dealer and they ran diagnostic tests. i asked them if it was in fact the timing chain issue.. they assured me it wasn't but told me i had to book the car in again for another day to do a more thorough examination.
    i pick the car up from the second visit to the dealer and they tell me what i suspected all along... the timing chain. looks like they need the car for 2+ days and need to take the top end of the motor off. so it looks like im getting a free water pump and head gasket too



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    what i cant believe is the 308 being a 2010 build surely would of had this known problem resolved by now?!
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    hi we have had nothing but problems with our 308 tourimg march 2010 had pan replaced due to warp, rear shockie replaced, a miss in the engine that keeps reoccuring and now it just losses power one minute fine next lucky to do 10kph Dealer says has fixed it this time spark plugs first time now air hose. questioned him today re timing said definitely not. However then said needed car for longer
    what other symtoms did you have. Also what dealer need all ammo I can get

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    Quote Originally Posted by zz2 View Post
    what i cant believe is the 308 being a 2010 build surely would of had this known problem resolved by now?!
    well, it is peugeot when you work on them, then on other cars, you have to wonder "why would they do that?" and thats not in a good way

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    does anyone know if the R56 minis have just as many problems with the 1.6 unit?

    i wonder if im better off taking the XTS to the BMW dealer for the repairs instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by zz2 View Post
    does anyone know if the R56 minis have just as many problems with the 1.6 unit?
    Like you wouldn't believe.

    See here - http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...ms-issues-188/

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    sounds like your intake ports are clogged with carbon too...

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    wouldnt surprise me. the car is a year old with17,000kms on it now and even without the stretched timing chain, the direct injection combined with the positive crank case ventilation would of been clogging it up regardless
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    Quote Originally Posted by zz2 View Post
    wouldnt surprise me. the car is a year old with17,000kms on it now and even without the stretched timing chain, the direct injection combined with the positive crank case ventilation would of been clogging it up regardless
    Is this the same car the dealers sort of forced upon your parents in the wrong trim and spec level or am I getting you confused with someone else, zz2???

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    Is this the same car the dealers sort of forced upon your parents in the wrong trim and spec level or am I getting you confused with someone else, zz2???

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    wasn't I. this dealer has actually been pretty good to me ever since i caught them with a service issue when we still had the 307
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    Wow going back to old technology My grandpa was right, they had it right once...

    Are you sure they have a timing chain? Most modern cars have belts and if something goes wrong with one of them you usually don't drive it home!! Just for my clarification about the chains and belts!

    I hope they have gone back to chains they are much more reliable (usually) Look at the old 504 simple and reliable!

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    These engines are chain driven.

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    Wow thats kool and we'll certainly help me with the wreckers when we finally get one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyO View Post
    These engines are chain driven.
    But as we can see are giving heaps more problems than the belts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS View Post
    But as we can see are giving heaps more problems than the belts!
    Yes, never had any problems with timing belts. You would think Peugeot could get the timing chain setup right though.

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    all fixed

    XTS drives spot on and a good inspection under bonnet appears everything was put back properly

    only took them 1 day to complete the works but they had to keep it overnight and do some cold start diagnostic testing
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    What did they replace, Mark?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyO View Post
    Yes, never had any problems with timing belts. You would think Peugeot could get the timing chain setup right though.
    it is a bmw engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206 View Post
    What did they replace, Mark?
    didnt give me a full run down but was told timing chain, head gasket and possibly water pump. not sure about the chain tensioner
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    Quote Originally Posted by jurgen_s View Post
    it is a bmw engine
    It's got a fair bit of BMW design in it, but it's cast, manufactured, assembled and tested by Peugeot. There's no point in blaming BMW for that.
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    Just out of interest, the 2.5litre petrol motor in the Nissan X Trail has a timing chain. Extremely quiet also compared to the rattlers in the old 404s and 504s. I cannot believe your timing chain has stretched that much in 17000ks. What is the tensioner doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davo8 View Post
    What is the tensioner doing? davo
    Running out of travel?
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