Need help!!! 74' 504 LTi - Injection system oil
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    Default Need help!!! 74' 504 LTi - Injection system oil

    Hi everyone,

    I'm pretty new to this but I've owned my 74' 504 LTi for some time. I need to change and replace the oil in the injection system as it looks dirty but I can't find anyone that stocks the Essolube 10W to suit it. Is there any other oil thats suitable without damaging it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I'm pretty new to this but I've owned my 74' 504 LTi for some time. I need to change and replace the oil in the injection system as it looks dirty but I can't find anyone that stocks the Essolube 10W to suit it. Is there any other oil thats suitable without damaging it?
    Auto Trans fluid, recommended by Morassi and Williams, Kugelfischer experts.
    Graham

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    Hey thanks Graham. Its probably better I replace the oil than replace the pump later down the track if it stuffs up. I have no idea where'd find one of them

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    Default Ti injection pump oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I'm pretty new to this but I've owned my 74' 504 LTi for some time. I need to change and replace the oil in the injection system as it looks dirty but I can't find anyone that stocks the Essolube 10W to suit it. Is there any other oil that's suitable without damaging it?

    I used sewing machine oil, only ever changed it once! When the car reaches 500K km I will probably change it again.

    I would never have thought of using transmission oil in my pump .

    Good Luck
    Present fleet:-
    Peugeot 93' 205 Gti 16v
    Peugeot 73' 504 Ti from new
    Peugeot 08' 407 Hdi Coupe from new

    Previous fleet:-
    Peugeot 95' 605 Sv
    Peugeot 92' 205 Gti
    Renault 72' 16TS from new
    Renault 69' 10
    Renault 71' 10s
    Renault 68' 10 from new

    "Be reasonable do it my way!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS View Post
    Auto Trans fluid, recommended by Morassi and Williams, Kugelfischer experts.
    Graham
    Second that, I used ATF on all of them.

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    Default Sewing machine oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Thanos View Post
    Second that, I used ATF on all of them.

    My one owner 1973 Ti has now covered 365000km, more than half this was running Shell sewing machine oil in the injection pump.

    I might try the next 365000km on ATF for a comparison!

    I will post the results here when I am aged 101 !
    Present fleet:-
    Peugeot 93' 205 Gti 16v
    Peugeot 73' 504 Ti from new
    Peugeot 08' 407 Hdi Coupe from new

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    Peugeot 92' 205 Gti
    Renault 72' 16TS from new
    Renault 69' 10
    Renault 71' 10s
    Renault 68' 10 from new

    "Be reasonable do it my way!"


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    Default Very long term comparision

    I await BIGRR's long term test of ATF versus sewing machine oil, I'd only be a sprightly 83!

    Somewhere in my shed I may have a near full bottle of the mystery lube, Phil Torode when the merchandising officer for PCCV sold it it 285ml Schweppes bottles. This was before the 205 was released in Oz so I beg the question, "Is this now vintage and therefore worth more?" I'll try and find the pricing in one of my Torque mags of the time.


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    So what is the difference then between sewing machine oil and auto transmission fluid. Are they the same viscosity? Anyone know what type of transmission fluid because there are heaps around.

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    This is the spec for the oil see
    http://64.8.120.101/user/data/file/l...lic_10W_en.pdf
    or from Penrite
    http://www.penriteoil.com.au/pis_pdf...JAN%202010.pdf

    Mobil Agri Fluid 424
    A high quality, high viscosity index transmission fluid with mild extreme pressure additives for transmission and hydrostatic fluid refill requirements to suit a wide range of farm and industrial tractors, mobile contractor equipment and some passenger cars. It also has proven performance in a number of 4WD manual transmissions, transfer cases and power steering applications.

    •One fluid for transmission and hydraulic systems
    •Excellent extreme pressure protection for maximum gear life
    •Frictional characteristics for wet brakes and power take-off clutches
    •Oxidation stability, foam control and water tolerance
    •Protection against rust and corrosion
    Product Specifications:


    Meets API GL-4, AGCO Powerfluid 821 XL, Case New Holland CNH MAT 3525, Ford New Holland FNHA-2-C-201.00, John Deere J20C, Kubota UDT, Vickers 35VQ25 & Volvo BM/WB101. Suitable for use in applications
    requiring Allison C-4 (agricultural applications only), Caterpillar TO-2, Denison HF-0/HF-1/HF-2 (Pumps only), JI Case MS 12 04/12 05/12 06/12 07/12 09 and Massey Ferguson M113 5/1141

    Hope that helps
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    Had - 407 HDI 406 SV 404, 504, 505 GR and STI. 405 GR ( carbie version) STI, MI16
    And an Austin 1800
    Learnt to drive in 203 Convertible and a 403 SW

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