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    Hi guys,
    i'm putting electronic ignition in my 504 tonight, but there are a couple of wires which i don't know where they go/ what they do.
    The system is from a 505 SR and consists of all the factory bits: coil, dizzy, module etc.
    There are 6 wires coming from the plug which attaches to the module.
    I know three of these go into a plug which goes into the side of the distributor.
    Another is an earth lead.
    The other two wires i'm not sure where they go? Does anyone here know? I think they go to the coil, but do they go via anything (eg. do they attach to other bits of the wiring loom before going to the coil?)?

    Thanks,
    Andrew

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    They both go to the coil.

    One of them goes to the positive (+) side of the coil, and also goes to the ignition power feed line.

    The other line goes to the negative (-) side of the coil, and also to the tachometer if fitted.

    Generally you use the terminals on top of the coil as a junction for these wires.

    I can't remember the colours of each wire, I'll have a look at my 404 wagon fitted with 505 SR electronic igntion and let you know which ones go where. If you put them on backwards, there is about a 95% chance that you will destroy the module.
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    Just checked, the blue wire goes to the + terminal on the coil, and also to the ignition power line.

    The grey wire goes to the - terminal on the coil, and also to the tacho.

    The striped green and gold wire is the earth.
    Scotty

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    1969 Peugeot 504 - 'Pascal' - daily driver project

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demannu
    Just checked, the blue wire goes to the + terminal on the coil, and also to the ignition power line.

    The grey wire goes to the - terminal on the coil, and also to the tacho.

    The striped green and gold wire is the earth.

    Thanks Scott,
    i hope i don't get the wires mixed up and blow the module. Lucky i managed to yoink a few from wrecks! I have a Ducellier dizzy and module, but i have a few spare Bosch modules (and maybe a spare Ducellier one too), can i use a Bosch module? It fits the same a a Ducellier one.
    Do the wires going to the coil from the module just go straight from the module to the coil? Or do they go through different things (eg. plugs, other parts of wiring)?

    What advance are you running? When i ha my car dyno'd it made more power at 6 degrees.

    Cheers,
    Andrew
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    Andrew,

    About time, you've had the ignition setup since September last year! I think you can use the Bosch module, I thought they all came with Bosch coils and modules. The modules are about $150 brand new, make sure it is properly heat sinked (sunk?). The coils are a special low resistance primary 0.7Ω and 3850Ω secondary according to the factory ws manual. Mine had a single branched wiring harness if I remeber correctly. This went from the module to the coil and dissy.

    I did a rough sketch of mine before I took it off the donor 505SR which I have included here. I hope you can make sense of it. The second diagram is from the ws manual and concerns the ZEJ motor. It sort of shows what pin on the module does what in a roundabout fashion.

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    Yes, you can use the Bosch module, Ive used one with success for a very long time, in fact so long I decided replace it with a new one just for a precaution, so tha it wont give in one day in the middle of the bush. Im now useing a 'no-name' replacement that has worked fine for close to a year now. The Bosch one travelles in the car as spare on long journeys..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Andrew,

    About time, you've had the ignition setup since September last year! I think you can use the Bosch module, I thought they all came with Bosch coils and modules. The modules are about $150 brand new, make sure it is properly heat sinked (sunk?). The coils are a special low resistance primary 0.7Ω and 3850Ω secondary according to the factory ws manual. Mine had a single branched wiring harness if I remeber correctly. This went from the module to the coil and dissy.

    I did a rough sketch of mine before I took it off the donor 505SR which I have included here. I hope you can make sense of it. The second diagram is from the ws manual and concerns the ZEJ motor. It sort of shows what pin on the module does what in a roundabout fashion.

    Matt.
    D'you know I've been looking all over the web for how bosch ignition module 0 227 100 111 is wired so this is just a little post to help searching.
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