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    Could some one please list the actual terms and conditions as they are classed in repect to the condition of a vehicle for sale or show.
    i keep reading people refering to cars they are selling or interested in purchasing as 'concours condition' cars
    i was watching an american car show on foxtell the other day and what they refer to as concours condition is a car with absouloutley no dirt or marks or signs of age at all as in exactly how it comes from the factory NEW!
    This catagory is even higher than show condition cars which are only driven to shows and back.
    They say concours condition cars never get driven and are taken to shows on trailers and stored in garages.
    they rated it like this
    1-concours condition[never driven and perfect and original in everyway]
    2-show condition[driven to shows with slight marks or wear allowed]
    3-performance and street condition[immaculate street driven cars with signs of wear ]
    then they had different classes for the condition of everyday drivers.
    Is this the same as here in oz?
    not being picky but was just wondering if anyone can enlighten me.[no diet jokes please]
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    put it this way

    mym others 604 when she had it was in concourse condition

    it was 11yr old when she sold it and it only had 18000km's on it

    it was in better condition than when it left the JRA building

    it was the best 604 in the country bar none

    it had a host of trophies won at concourse events

    it was never driven in a wet road and never taken off the bitumen

    it was stored in a garage covered in blankets and whenever a door was opened it had the new smell even after 11 years

    this car is what i class as concourse condition

    there never has been nor will there ever be another like it
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    Baz, a difficult request to address accurately - as Pugrambo's response reflects, any seller's description of a car will always be subjective, and worded to make it as attractive as possible in order to secure a sale. I think the old 'Caveat Emptor' applies in any instance when viewing a potential purchase, and ultimately it is the buyer who determines whether or not the car in question is worth paying good money for. Regardless of rules and regulations, terms and conditions or whatever, people will describe a car as they see fit.This isn't Sotheby's, just good old Froggy Forum!
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    I think the Trading Post used to have the best descriptions but abbreviated.

    N/R = Nearly R**ted

    F/C = Fairly Clapped

    P/C = Pretty Cactus

    U/R = U Reckon - it can be registered?

    G/C = Generally Crap

    As new = As New as a 10 year old car could be!

    FSH = Fairly Shitty History

    O.N.O. = Or Nastier Offer

    O.B.O. = Oh Bugger Off (insult of a bloody price)

    Firm = Have you seen my neighbours wife?

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    On my forum, we re-use the Samba's conditions:

    http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/conditions.htm

    It's about as good as you'll find out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boodek
    Baz, a difficult request to address accurately - as Pugrambo's response reflects, any seller's description of a car will always be subjective, and worded to make it as attractive as possible in order to secure a sale. I think the old 'Caveat Emptor' applies in any instance when viewing a potential purchase, and ultimately it is the buyer who determines whether or not the car in question is worth paying good money for. Regardless of rules and regulations, terms and conditions or whatever, people will describe a car as they see fit.This isn't Sotheby's, just good old Froggy Forum!

    yeah i know ben, but surley there must be standard that people run to.
    one persons concours condition is another persons in good nick.
    if there was a standard that we all knew then there would be less hassle.
    i refered to the american car show as they listed the catagories and i was wondering if its the same here.
    anyone into show cars on this forum>>>>???????

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