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    Default Help...No brakes!!

    G'day all
    Got in the s16 this morning and brakes felt a bit spongy. Went to the shops and when i got back in...no brakes, nothing, peddle pushes all the way in with no resistance at all. Brake fluid reservoir has drained, and i didn't get any warning lights on the dash before. What could this be? No fluid on the ground anywhere..has my master cylinder crapped itself?

    Dan

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    well the fluid had to go somewhere.
    check all connections and look at the back of all the wheels for signs of leaks,by the sounds of it it may be leaking while pressing the pedal but not squirting directly on anything so its not leaving tall tale marks.
    look inside at the carpet near the pedals to see if its wet.
    check the haines to see how the system works and go over it to find the leak.
    good luck-BAZZ

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    Look at the brake booster wher the master cylinder bolts to it, most likely it will be wet, and so the Master cyl will have to be rekitted, resleeved or replaced. The contact in the on the reservoir float often gets crud on it over many years, not allowing the light to come on when the fluid is down. Could be a brake caliper, but is less likely.
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    thanks Bazz
    would it happen quite sudden if it was a slow leak like you suggest? or would the pedal just go spongy when the reservoir eventually empties and air gets in the system? Also anyone know if the brake setup on the s16 is the same as 306 (only haynes i got)?

    Dan

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    Default Help...No brakes!! *Update*

    After much pumping of brakes and topping up of reservoir, i have found a great dirty hole in one of the brake pipes towards the rear right hand side brake. Any ideas on how to patch this up temporarily so that i can bleed the brakes etc then drive to the mechanic? Or can i pick up one to fit from the closest dealer?
    Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st_time_pug
    After much pumping of brakes and topping up of reservoir, i have found a great dirty hole in one of the brake pipes towards the rear right hand side brake. Any ideas on how to patch this up temporarily so that i can bleed the brakes etc then drive to the mechanic? Or can i pick up one to fit from the closest dealer?
    Thanks again
    Dan

    Too much pressure to 'patch' it up successfully. Best to remove the brake line, take it to an auto shop and get something suitable to replace it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st_time_pug
    After much pumping of brakes and topping up of reservoir, i have found a great dirty hole in one of the brake pipes towards the rear right hand side brake.
    It'll come as cold comfort to you, I'm sure, Dan, but after snagging my 306's brake lines many times on bush runs following stormy weather, I find that the 206 is a lot tidier underneath in this regard ... just try to stay aware of the exposure any time you catch sight of crud on the road.
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    The hole is in one of the metal brake pipes not in the rubber line. It is where the pipe goes around the shock absorber, almost as if it has been rubbing on it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st_time_pug
    The hole is in one of the metal brake pipes not in the rubber line. It is where the pipe goes around the shock absorber, almost as if it has been rubbing on it..
    You could take it to a dealer & get a new one, but if it was mine i'd take the line off the car & take it to a brake specialist. If they are any good they will make one up for you on the spot. They should be able to reuse your old nuts if they weren't damaged getting them off. It's easier with brake line spanners, they don't round off the nuts so easily.
    Dom

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    cheers Dom..
    did just that yesterday, replaced it, bled the brakes and away we go. Better than a tow to the mechanics. Thanks for the replies
    Dan

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    Hey!!
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