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    Hi all, I had some fun experience yesterday, I went to get the pink slip, the guys said leave the car and come back in 30 min, I left the car there, which was in absolute perfect condition, I did come back, the guy adv me that cannot pass me as he detected some oil on the engine and the battery was loose, which I thought was a bit of a joke. I said ok, stop screwing with me, let me go some place else, however I had to pay the 29$ for this crap anyway. No this is only the beginning of my story.

    I go back in to the car and notice that the gear stick is completely loose, like a knife in a block of melted butter. I go back to those loosers, and they start acting all surprised like they have no idea what I am talking about, first they told some bullshit stories, asked if I wanted to take the car to my own mechanic, but seeing that I was just about to blow, the guy took the car in put it up, after screwing with me for another 30 min, they told me that this is a French car for you, and they don’t know what happened. After another 30 min they told me that there is a problem with some link, see the diagram, and it worn itself off just in that period of time when I left the car with those jerks. Soon after they told me that they can fix it, its not their fault and I have to pay for it. They did fix it in the end, although I am not sure what else they’ve done to it. After yelling and arguing with those crooks I had to pay $86, for something they’ve done. All up I was out of pocket $115, they’ve ruined my week, and possibly done something else.

    I came there at 10 am, I picked my car up at 5 pm, and all I wanted was the pink slip.

    Today I got that damn pink slip in Alexandria, and it took 10 min, not even that.

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    daaaaam. There is some real crooks in the auto business. Bastards

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustymunga
    daaaaam. There is some real crooks in the auto business. Bastards
    thanks dude for your compassion, i really need it I am still angry....rrrrrrrr...

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    whats a pink slip?

    Sorry to hear what happened?
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    WRC PUG, a pink slip is the NSW equivalent of your RWC. All cars more than 3 years old have to be tested by authorised inspection stations, usually mechanical workshops.
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    Makes your blood boil.
    Thats why I learn't how to be a mechanic.
    On cars that matter,anyway.

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    Hey Warren, u a Peugeot mechanic?? have been looking for some decent mechanics around the areaz

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    Oh and BTW... Which mechanic was this? Just so everyone can no NOT TO GO THERE

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustymunga
    Oh and BTW... Which mechanic was this? Just so everyone can no NOT TO GO THERE
    I did post the name of the shop but the aussiefrogs moderator edited my post, and delited any references to it, not sure if I've done something "illegal" this is a place in bondi, if you are in bondi send me an email I'll let you know

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    What type of pug do you drive?

    Is reverse in a normal position?

    My old R12 nearly had the gearshift ripped from the floor by some moron trying to find reverse...he ended up tearing the rubber bushes on the linkage...

    When I got there to pick up the car, nothing was said, I paid for the tyres hopped in and instantly felt something was wrong...

    I managed to get it home and put it on ramps and found one of the (fairly new) buses was torn away...

    I replaced the part, went back down to the tyre store and asked the manager for the tyre fitter to demonstrate how he got the vehicle in reverse when he removed it from the car park...

    After a bit of BS and a few failed attempts, the truth came out that he had tried to find reverse for a few minutes before he felt something break so he pushed it into the workshop...

    Needless to say the manager was VERY appologetic and I ended up getting the tyres for trade price (about $120 cheaper for the set..)

    The Fuego is similar to the R12 so I now make a habit of physically showing the tyre fitter/mechanic how to get reverse...

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    I think I can top that one. When I first got my Mi16 it had idle problems and occasionaly cut out when sitting in traffic. I took it back to the dealer two days after I bought it and simply said "fix" and handed him the keys.

    Afetr a week of waiting I got the car back and it was no better. After some advice from Darren Fullerton (now owner of Bellevue Motors in Newcastle) I pulled the out the ECU for a visual inspection. To my horror it was covered in corrosion!

    Being quite keen to make the dealer squirm, I played dumb and took it back again. I covinced him that it was an electrical problem (he also played dumb) and he agreed to have his 'mechanic' check it once more. When I got it back after another weeks' wait it was still playing up.

    I queried the actions of the mechanic and I was told that he 'tested' the ECU and inspected all electrical components. It was at this point that I lifted the bonnet and starting asking questions of the dealer. He knew exactly what he was talking about, but did a very good job of hiding his mechanical aptitude.

    It took another three weeks and a letter from Dept. Fair Trading to have it fixed properly. So for $10500, I got a car that was basically inoperative for about three straight months.

    As with your pink slip episode, I learned my lesson the hard way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav
    I did post the name of the shop but the aussiefrogs moderator edited my post, and delited any references to it, not sure if I've done something "illegal" this is a place in bondi, if you are in bondi send me an email I'll let you know
    Sorry to hear about your drama there Stanislav

    We have a similar story about an inspection station in bondi, not sure if it is the same place...

    A couple of weeks ago we sold a really nice Audi A3 that we had traded in not long before. The previous owner had been very particular with the servicing and the car was in great condition.

    The car was sold with ACT plates but the new owner decided to get it registered in NSW so he went to this place in Bondi that he had used previously to get a blue slip. The guys there failed it on the brake test and told him the car needed brake work before it would pass the roadworthy test. They issued him with a white slip which notified the RTA that the car was not roadworthy...

    He called us for advice so we sent him to our blue-slip guys for a second opinion. They checked all the pads, rotors, master cylinder etc, did the road test and could not fault the brakes in any way so they issued the blue slip and the car was registered easily.

    Apparently this place in Bondi (and it may not be the same place as Stanislav went to) has a reputation for failing cars on the brake test according to a couple of our mechanic contacts. Also the guy who bought the Audi had taken his previous car to them a few months before for a pink slip and they knocked that back on brakes, and charged him a few hundred $$ to fix it. Which pissed him off because he had only just spent some hundreds of $$ fixing the brakes a month or so prior... but he didn't think at the time that they could be ripping him off ...

    Anyway this case was reported to the RTA who will be looking very closely at these guys since they have already received a number of complaints about them....

    Hopefully the shit they have caused other people will now come back on them in a big way!

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    Why was Stanislav not allowed to name the workshop in question? Could they actually take some sort of defamation legal proceedings? I know in NZ most forums you can say pretty much anything you like. That does result in some moronic discussions, but still curious about reasons for not naming names. I think treating customers poorly (and it's surprisingly common) should naturally point consumers to good workshops who take the sometimes harder road and have morales!

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    Default thanks people, sharing this made me feel a bit better

    thanks people, sharing this with you made me feel a bit better,
    when these guys failed me on the pink slip, they told me they can fix all of the faults for about 100 backs, plus they've also tried to sell me their tyres.

    I actually felt like I was on that MTV show "The Boiling Point", they aggravate customers in deferent situation, and if you are patient you'll get $100, but no it was all real, not a show.

    I did call Motor Vehicle Authority hotline, and they told me I can make a complaint/claim against them, but I need the original part which was damaged, at the time when they were fixing it they told me they'll give me the part, but then I came to pick the car up they told me they through it out, and after I told the guy to go find it he was quick to adopt 4 letter word lexicon, and started throwing folders at me.

    I guess there is nothing I can do now but be very cautious then it comes to issues like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistareno
    What type of pug do you drive?

    Is reverse in a normal position?

    My old R12 nearly had the gearshift ripped from the floor by some moron trying to find reverse...he ended up tearing the rubber bushes on the linkage...

    When I got there to pick up the car, nothing was said, I paid for the tyres hopped in and instantly felt something was wrong...

    I managed to get it home and put it on ramps and found one of the (fairly new) buses was torn away...

    I replaced the part, went back down to the tyre store and asked the manager for the tyre fitter to demonstrate how he got the vehicle in reverse when he removed it from the car park...

    After a bit of BS and a few failed attempts, the truth came out that he had tried to find reverse for a few minutes before he felt something break so he pushed it into the workshop...

    Needless to say the manager was VERY appologetic and I ended up getting the tyres for trade price (about $120 cheaper for the set..)

    The Fuego is similar to the R12 so I now make a habit of physically showing the tyre fitter/mechanic how to get reverse...

    its a 306 dude and its all very simple, it goes like this, you dont need to push anything or pull anithing like on renaults or citroens

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    Ref: Removal of offenders name.

    Unfortunately it's the way it is that naming and shaming becomes a risk for both those doing the naming and those operating the forum which is why names are removed.
    The point being that if it were to go to court, the mere fact that it was done publicly means that you have opened the case up so that they can cunjure up a story to refute your argument, hence chances are that you with no witnesses and they with a contrived story would win out in the end.
    Truth isn't a defence against libel either, it's the effect the libel is perceived to have had on the one who is named that is the basis for the case and if he were to present a case that by you libelling him and the forum allowing the posting to stay has caused him a significant volume of business, then he has a case. If you could prove that what you were saying was 100% truthful, you are still guilty of causing him grief.
    Where the big risk comes in, is that more often than not, a good straight honest operator doing the right thing, will just let something like this pass as his reputation will carry him through it and the one making the accusations then has their credibility questioned, however, dodgy operators are often very sensitive about this (guilty consciounce??) and they are the ones more likely to act. After all if they were doing their job properly they wouldn't need to resort to this kind of crap to survive and the prospects of a fast buck in any form they will go looking for.
    I'd suggest anyone wanting the name of anyone when these things arise, takes advantage of the PM system on the board, particularly anyone in the area concerned as in reality it serves no purpose telling me here in Central Coastal Queensland about someone in Coastal Sydney as apart from interests sake it's never going to affect me or anyone near me unless he moves into my area.
    Unfortunately, there's far too many down your way up to these capers and in the past when I have even vaguely hinted at who they may be, I receive a pile of PMs from them or their mates (on the forum) telling me what great guys they are or threatening action, so there's plenty to choose from and they are well aware of what they're doing; it's more dishonesty than incompetance, but the law says we aren't allowed to warn anybody publicly.
    Hope that clrifies it for all.


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    My brother's friend has a workshop where he just about always picks something wrong with a car. It's usually something trivial, like wiper blades, or if he didn't make much money that week, Tyres.

    I always call him a crook when I see him. He never gets it.

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    Once I hopped in to my brother's Austin Healey Sprite to try it out around the block. It was fine when he lent it to me, but 400m down the road, the gearstick dropped through the transmission tunnel . Funnily he didn't ask me to pay to fix it, even though it happened in my care. Blood must be thicker than water, either that or shit happens...

    Meanwhile, my wife returned to her GS after a rego check at a tyre shop and as she got in, it started to roll off down the road. 'Sorry love, couldn't find the handbrake'. But they didn't think to leave it in gear, did they
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    I went to a tyre place in Thomastown a couple of years ago to get some tyres fitted to my RX7 (oops thats a car i left off my list of owned cars!!! ) and some brake pads fitted to it as well.
    when i arrived to get it (the next day i might add!!) the pads were still in teh box on the front seat...

    when i asked about it ( i HAD been charged for the fitting!!) the guy there told me to take it back in and they'll fit it - as i was moving it it sounded like the new tyres were rubbing. turns out they hadnt tightened ANY of the wheel nuts!

    thank god i hadn't pulled out of there straight onto the roundabout - that coulda been REAL exciting!!!!

    i've also heard about the same place grinding back calipers on R33 skylines to make aftermarket wheels fit!

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    Sorry to hear.
    Understand tho that no one cares for their car better than the owner. I have been taking all the cars i've owned, all my family's and friends to the same place for a pink slip or repairs for years. They specialise in older fiats, alfas etc, and they like my pug.

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    Sprites are supposed to do that..



    [QUOTE=Trixie]Once I hopped in to my brother's Austin Healey Sprite to try it out around the block. It was fine when he lent it to me, but 400m down the road, the gearstick dropped through the transmission tunnel . Funnily he didn't ask me to pay to fix it, even though it happened in my care. Blood must be thicker than water, either that or shit happens...

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