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    Icon8 505 rear brakes/handbrake & IDIOT mechanics

    I wonderered why the handbrake on the newly acquired 505 STI didnt work - today had a look & took out the rear pads.
    The stupid mongrels have broken the inner mechanism inside the rear calipers on both sides probably to put in new pads at some stage.

    Must have been a drongo service station grease monkey as Peugeot have used the same idea to release the handbrake in the 504s 604s & 505s - over 25 years - anyone with the smallest tad of brake experience would know this.

    I havent pulled it apart yet - what can I expect?????
    Any tips or tricks?

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    Which mechanism do you mean? If it's part of the caliper, then it will more than likely be easier to just remove/replace and then throw it at the people who broke it initially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 505 to the max
    Which mechanism do you mean? If it's part of the caliper, then it will more than likely be easier to just remove/replace and then throw it at the people who broke it initially.
    Yes - its internal to the rear caliper.
    With the pads removed, you can push the piston back into its housing without turning the " slot " up to release the mechanism.
    It must have taken a huge amount of force to break this.
    Imagine saying to the customer "we have put new brake pads in & oh - by the way - we noticed your handbrake isn't working!!!!"
    So many projects - so little time.

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    These hand brakes!

    A few months ago I used a coupon I had for a 1/2 price service at a generic 'european car specialist' down the road, and they rang me to say the handbrake needed adjusting. I practically yelled at the guy "don't touch it!". I've spent a lot of time and money trying to get it to work after a year of it either sticking on or off.
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    There are some dumb mechanics out there that shouldn't be let anywhere near a well engineered car like Peugeots!
    Thet have obviously sheared the teeth off the pawl mechanism in the piston assembly - they are fine & delicate.
    You won't get a new part anymore - best bet is to see a good wrecker & try to source good replacement part. When new this part cost around $350 a pair!
    Obviously you'll need to remove the caliper & disassemble - straightforward job. When you do turn the piston face 45 degrees to enable the piston to be pushed home, take care what you use to achieve this. Not good to slip & tear the seal!
    Best of luck.
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    I spent $450 a few years back at a peugeot specialist trying to fix my locking handbrake.

    Worked for abbout a month, never again.

    Then i started to canabialise parts and in the end needed 6 calipers to get parts to make 2 decent calipers. No problems since, apart from a lack of power from the handbrake.

    It holds the car on small hills, 1st gear does the rest when the car is stationary. I am not game to touch it lest i tip the balance.

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    A website mentioned in another post (about LSdifferentials) contains some good photographs about the rear caliper and handbrake set-up:-
    http://peugeot505.info

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    I too have come to accept the fact the emergency brake is only there to prevent a quick escape from the driverís seat to the passengerís side. How could they produce such a fine car and not have a space for the house brick needed to prevent the thing from rolling away.

    Re-kit a set of callipers and apply to the car. You may find that only one side is affected.

    P.S. if any one has a few front calliper slide rubbers kicking around I would be grateful. BTW is it better to have discs machined on the car or on the bench. And if replacing discs what are the $$. Are vented discs better than a solid for general application?
    I have a very slight warp, (Iím talking disc here), and it is beginning to annoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma
    I too have come to accept the fact the emergency brake is only there to prevent a quick escape from the driverís seat to the passengerís side. How could they produce such a fine car and not have a space for the house brick needed to prevent the thing from rolling away.

    Re-kit a set of callipers and apply to the car. You may find that only one side is affected.

    P.S. if any one has a few front calliper slide rubbers kicking around I would be grateful. BTW is it better to have discs machined on the car or on the bench. And if replacing discs what are the $$. Are vented discs better than a solid for general application?
    I have a very slight warp, (Iím talking disc here), and it is beginning to annoy.
    I just had my front discs machined on car (604 ones though) the difference is amazing. Mine were very warped though. A wheel balance will even things up nicely hopefully.

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