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    my gti180 seem to be losing power lately. It just doesn't feel the same. can anyone help?

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    Can you please explain more about this loss of power?
    When does it usually happen? Is it consistent? etc, and how many K's have you clocked on it so far etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by 206
    my gti180 seem to be losing power lately. It just doesn't feel the same. can anyone help?
    Put some more fuel in it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 206
    my gti180 seem to be losing power lately. It just doesn't feel the same. can anyone help?
    Get a GTi6! At least I can feel all 167 horses! Maybe it's because of the ape/bus like driving position of the 206 and you can't reach the go pedal!

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    A little more info would help, out curosity are you mixing different petrols?
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    Has it been serviced recently??? My sales rep who sold me the 180 (coming in a week ) said that those service ppl can really fck you round, happend to him and he owns 180...

    If it has been serviced recently, go back and ask what the F*CK is GOING ON!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irossiter
    Get a GTi6! At least I can feel all 167 horses! Maybe it's because of the ape/bus like driving position of the 206 and you can't reach the go pedal!
    Noooooo don't start this!!! It's been done to death.

    Actually the '180 is not at all bus like in driving position due to those great seats. The clio sport is much more bus like in driving position, but those things go bloody hard and feel it too, regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustymunga
    Has it been serviced recently??? My sales rep who sold me the 180 (coming in a week ) said that those service ppl can really fck you round, happend to him and he owns 180...

    If it has been serviced recently, go back and ask what the F*CK is GOING ON!!!!!
    Excellent. Their own sales team are ragging on them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug4eva
    Can you please explain more about this loss of power?
    When does it usually happen? Is it consistent? etc, and how many K's have you clocked on it so far etc

    I've done 20k kms. its not responsive as normal - the power seem to be lagging even from above 3500rpm. i only use shell optimax.

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    no idea what the issue could be? If it wasn't AS new i would say it needs a bloody good service, but since it's a 180, meh, I dunno

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206
    Excellent. Their own sales team are ragging on them
    they are a joke there though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 206
    I've done 20k kms. its not responsive as normal - the power seem to be lagging even from above 3500rpm. i only use shell optimax.
    Not wanting to start or inflame a great fuel debate, my 206 (OK, it's only an XT) hates Optimax. Try BP instead, it seems to be a lot smoother. There are many theories, but the most consistent answer I get from those who claim to know suggest that Optimax works fine with larger injectors (as found on Aussie sedans) and not so well with small injectors.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugknut
    Not wanting to start or inflame a great fuel debate, my 206 (OK, it's only an XT) hates Optimax. Try BP instead, it seems to be a lot smoother. There are many theories, but the most consistent answer I get from those who claim to know suggest that Optimax works fine with larger injectors (as found on Aussie sedans) and not so well with small injectors.
    what I found with fuel in Melb on a 206GTI:
    Optimax - best performance, worst economy
    BP Ultimate - best economy, average performance
    Mobil 8000 - you're better off filling in RON91 if you really want it

    I also tried Shell RON95 while in RA2005 in ADL since there's no optimax an dI'm tied into my Shell card, it's good on economy, similar to BP but not as much grunt.

    But all these extra power won't be noticed unless you're pushing the engine, so just fill up whatever fancy you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by J206GTI
    what I found with fuel in Melb on a 206GTI:
    Optimax - best performance, worst economy
    BP Ultimate - best economy, average performance
    Mobil 8000 - you're better off filling in RON91 if you really want it

    What about Vortex 98??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mi16 Man
    What about Vortex 98??
    I don't believe it's available in Victoria (although that may have changed).

    I've found no difference in using Gold or 98, other than to the hip pocket. I'm all for using a more expensive fuel if it gives you a benefit, but it my case, I failed to see any

    Getting back to the original question from 206:

    If you can't explain things a little more clearly, then we won't be able to help you much

    If it's still under warranty and you're not happy with it, then take it to your service mob and tell them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206
    I don't believe it's available in Victoria (although that may have changed).
    I think they are, just not widely available...


    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206
    I've found no difference in using Gold or 98, other than to the hip pocket. I'm all for using a more expensive fuel if it gives you a benefit, but it my case, I failed to see any
    For day to day driving there's not much benifit...

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206
    If it's still under warranty and you're not happy with it, then take it to your service mob and tell them.
    As the same time be prepared with all the symptoms you observed, chances are the service guys will think it's normal and you have to push hard for them to check on the issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206
    I don't believe it's available in Victoria (although that may have changed).
    For at least 4 years now... at almost all the caltex's i've seen. though that may be just along my usual routes inner city, so it may be as J206GTI said in regional vic

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    Quote Originally Posted by pptn
    For at least 4 years now... at almost all the caltex's i've seen. though that may be just along my usual routes inner city, so it may be as J206GTI said in regional vic

    Well - no.

    Vortex 98 came out last year.

    Vortex (and since 98 arrive renamed Vortex Gold) has been available for many years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206
    Well - no.

    Vortex 98 came out last year.

    Vortex (and since 98 arrive renamed Vortex Gold) has been available for many years.
    My bad. Was thinking Vortex Gold.
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    Hey, that's no problem

    Caltex need only look at this thread (and nearly every other thread that mentions Vortex) to see just how bad a decision their marketing department has made with the naming/marketing of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206
    Caltex need only look at this thread (and nearly every other thread that mentions Vortex) to see just how bad a decision their marketing department has made with the naming/marketing of it.
    We get Vortex in WA (Ron95) and yes a lot of people "think" it's 98 (or mistake it for BP Ultimate), would be nice if we actually GOT a choice of 98's

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206
    Put some more fuel in it?
    Or better yet put the right fuel in it. That doesn't mean diesel, ha ha!.
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    Not entirely sure what your petrol is like in the southern hemisphere but in the UK we've got unleaded (95RON), super unleaded (97RON) and Shell Optimax (98RON). There have been rumours of a 99RON petrol being made available soon, now that there are cars that can use this fuel properly.

    Certainly found, and seems to be a concensus of opinion among UK 180 owners, that super unleaded & Optimax give the best performance and fuel economy.

    As for the loss of power in the 180, when was the last time the filters were changed? After my last service I noticed a very marked improvement in performance, and the service was mainly filter and fluid changes. You may have got a bad batch of fuel in the car but unlikely if you've stayed with premium brand petrol of some kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron180
    Not entirely sure what your petrol is like in the southern hemisphere but in the UK we've got unleaded (95RON), super unleaded (97RON) and Shell Optimax (98RON). There have been rumours of a 99RON petrol being made available soon, now that there are cars that can use this fuel properly.
    Down Under fuel comes in 91, 95, and 98RON varieties at the pump.
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