Leg room - 405 vs 306?
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    Default Leg room - 405 vs 306?

    I went to check out a 1996 306 that was for sale last weekend, and I didn't fit in the thing! I'm about 6 foot 4 and would have expected the seat to go back far enough to accommodate me (a while ago I test drove a VW Golf and had to bring the seat slightly forward!).

    Is there significantly more leg room in the front of a 405, compared to a 306?

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    I'm after a diesel <$10K, which tends to limit my choices somewhat...

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    Been a while since I've been in a 306 but I'm going to go ahead and say the 405 has more legroom, although not a great deal more.

    The 405 is a class larger than the 306 and naturally is going to have more legroom.

    6'4 is a fairly tall hight and it's not surprising you found the 306 being essentially a family hatchback a bit squeezed for legroom. I think the 405 would certainly accomodate you better.

    In terms of rear legroom this is where the 405 really demonstrates its size over the 306, there is definitely more rear leg space in a 405 than a 306.

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    Default Re: leg room

    Thanks Louis.

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    The 405 is not bad, I am 6'2" but damn it feels cramped after getting used to the Statesman, try one of those for leg room, the only car I have driven that I cannot have the seat right back and still reach the pedals fully. 405 is pretty good for 4 but we have found that with a son approaching 6' and two other kids that the 405 was just too cramped - as was the 407 and the C5
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    Yes, the VW Golf I test drove (1995 TDi) was unbelievable - a teeny hatchback, and I didn't need the seat all the way back!

    I've been driving an L series Subaru for the last 5 years and it doesn't have a great deal of leg room. I would hope a 405 is no worse than that.

    Thanks for the help. Must seem a strange query (why don't I just go and test drive one?!?) but due to the rarity of diesel cars, I'm probably going to have to source the car from interstate... I suppose I could do worse than go and test drive a petrol 405 just to see how it feels. As long as the seating is the same in both the petrol and the diesel!

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    Yep they are the same, I find head room in mine the biggest issue as it has the sunroof. My diesel would be for sale if I could convince the wife that we dont really need it. Currently have 4 cars registered, the leased Statesman is the main car now (gotta do 25k for FBT reasons).
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    You found a '95 Golf TDi? Wow, they are rare.

    I'm nowhere near as tall as you being 5'8", but I remember adjusting the 306 seats to the maximum of their travel. It wasn't a 'sik' driving position either, that's just what I found comfortable.

    I didn't have this problem in the 405 though. Hopefully there is enough room for you. Series 2 405's are great

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    Default Re: 95 Golf TDi

    Yes, and the guy knew how rare they were too. He was asking 14K for a 10 year old hatchback! If it was in immaculate condition I'd have considered it to be a good deal, but its condition couldn't be described as immaculate. Probably mechanically very good, but 405 diesels are selling for half that price and achieve fuel economy that's almost as good... When all's said and done, a 2001 model Golf or 307 HDi is only about $20K these days.

    The Golf had a pretty nice motor, accelerated up a steep hill from 40kph in 3rd, probably the equivalent of what my Subaru would do in 2nd!

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    Neil, did you get my email?

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    As I have a 405 and a 306 ... the 405 has a lot more room.
    I'm 180cm and my head touches the roof in the 306 ( not helped by the thick lambswool seat covers) and i have the seat back as far as it will go
    In the 405 I have the seat on the second or third last notch.
    Bear in mind that seat positioning extremities can be a bit of a marketing ploy, (look, with the seat right back there's plenty of room in the back.)

    If you are 6'4" Jimmy, you may find even the 405 a close fit. depends of course if you are long in the body

    check this link. $8500 for SRDT. http://www.drive.com.au/used_cars/pe...pp=18&d=0&nv=1


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    At 6'3 1/2" i have no trouble fitting into a 306 cabriolet, heaps of leg room and head room. It was a mitigating factor in chosing the cabriolet over the hatch.

    The only downside of the 306 is that it doesn't have enough go after stepping out of 3L V6 alfa. The handling is very good. Any thoughts on a performance upgrade on the donk?

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