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    Default Approach and Departure angles.

    Without a measuring tape (and how does one compensate for spring compression) does anyone know the approach and departure angles for the 206GTi180?

    If the said car was jacked up and the springs chocked at an extended position to get the extra height, will this cause any damage to the car if it is not moved. The ramp angle the vehicle must traverse is about 32deg, and no they can't use other wood or ramps to change the angle.

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    This is a spec I've never seen from Peugeot, even in press kits where they tell you the length of wiper blades!

    Other than having it measured, probably best to try and contact someone at PAA.

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    XTC, you might get better help if you said why. It it going on a ferry or car transporter or something?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey
    XTC, you might get better help if you said why. It it going on a ferry or car transporter or something?
    Yep, Ship .. hence the loading ramp is not moveable/adjustable, owner concerned the 32degs is too steep and looking at ways of reducing the risk.

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    I just move the my cars height control lever next the seat to 'HIGH', that should clear just about any ramp made anywhere.

    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    I just move the my cars height control lever next the seat to 'HIGH', that should clear just about any ramp made anywhere.

    Hope this helps

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    Seriously though,

    Do you or a friend have a welder .... Spend the $$$$ and buy some metal and make yourself up a set of ramps with a large departure angle ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Do you or a friend have a welder .... Spend the $$$$ and buy some metal and make yourself up a set of ramps with a large departure angle ...
    sigh .... I repeat " The ramp angle the vehicle must traverse is about 32deg, and no they can't use other wood or ramps to change the angle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    sigh .... I repeat " The ramp angle the vehicle must traverse is about 32deg, and no they can't use other wood or ramps to change the angle."

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    Aren't you just trying to get a car up onto ramps .... I have a set that a 'dead' hydraulic Citroen can climb ..... If a car with only a few milimeters ground clearance and a 124" wheelbase can get onto the ramps, I assure you, a little poogoe can.

    If you make your own, make the long and low .... It'll be the same as driving up a gentle hill....

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    Ive taken my car with a full load before onto a car ferry did it with ease just drive on a angle so the front tyre on one side goes onto the ferry first. Then just keep driving at that angle until your on. I doubt you will have problems, i do it alot and never had a problem.

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    Gee's I'm slow .... Now I get it, you want to get the car up into a buidling/ship/fixed ramp .....

    I'm sure they have faced this issue before, they probably have a 2 long lengths of wood they lay down for lowered cars to drive up....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Aren't you just trying to get a car up onto ramps .... I have a set that a 'dead' hydraulic Citroen can climb ..... If a car with only a few milimeters ground clearance and a 124" wheelbase can get onto the ramps, I assure you, a little poogoe can.
    I give up ... come back when you've read the ENTIRE thread

    Thanks to others who have bothered to provide valid suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Gee's I'm slow .... Now I get it, you want to get the car up into a buidling/ship/fixed ramp .....

    I'm sure they have faced this issue before, they probably have a 2 long lengths of wood they lay down for lowered cars to drive up....

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    Finally .... YEAH !!!!!!

    They may have faced this situation before, but this ship normally takes TANKS, so ramp angle is set, and they don't usually make exceptions or changes .. you know the armed forces, but if anyone can make a square peg fit in a round hole .. it'll be them.

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    Fnd what else there loading .... Maybe there's a recovery vehicle/tow truck being shipped. All it would need to do is lift the Poogoe by it's front towing points (giving much more overall ground clearance) and TOW in on and off the ship

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Fnd what else there loading .... Maybe there's a recovery vehicle/tow truck being shipped. All it would need to do is lift the Poogoe by it's front towing points (giving much more overall ground clearance) and TOW in on and off the ship seeya, Shane L.
    That's the kinda lateral thinking we were after (doubt there will be a tow truck, but could be another truck to put it on first) ... that or he could just trade down to a sh!tron?

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    32 degrees is steep. Getting into four wheel drive territory. As an example my Niva has an approach angle of 40 and departure of 34. Departure will be not much trouble, it will only drag its tail, approach in a fwd is another matter. A lot to damage. Also before lifting it by its nose with the towing hook find out if its frame is made to take this force. Remember people used to loading heavy equipment may not appreciate the subtleties of handling a small car.

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    If you get to the ramp and find the car is too low at the front and all other plans failed. Perhaps lift the hatch and get a couple of guys to sit in the boot for that initial approach. That will lift the nose quite a bit.

    Once got a commodore out of a hole like that. It's front left wheel was in a hole so deep that the nose was sitting on it's frame, spin the wheel by hand. Opened the boot and we got five guys standing in there, car drove straight out. A Commodore nose weighs a lot more than a pug's.
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