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    My 505 GR came from the previous owner with a Weber carby and manual choke fitted. I've been told when trying to source a repair kit from pug suppliers for the Weber that 505s were fitted with Solex carbys and that the Weber has come from a conversion.
    If so then can anyone guide me to a possible supplier of Weber spares?
    The problem is that I need to pop the air filter at the start of everyday to prime the carby. Seems to be a small fuel leak from the rear lower area of the Weber.

    Also by now the oval shaped rubber ring that mates the air intake to the top of the carby has now disintegtrated from too many lifts. Are these possible to obtain on their own without having to buy the overall air intake unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUG_504_505
    My 505 GR came from the previous owner with a Weber carby and manual choke fitted. I've been told when trying to source a repair kit from pug suppliers for the Weber that 505s were fitted with Solex carbys and that the Weber has come from a conversion.
    If so then can anyone guide me to a possible supplier of Weber spares?
    The problem is that I need to pop the air filter at the start of everyday to prime the carby. Seems to be a small fuel leak from the rear lower area of the Weber.

    Also by now the oval shaped rubber ring that mates the air intake to the top of the carby has now disintegtrated from too many lifts. Are these possible to obtain on their own without having to buy the overall air intake unit?

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    Yes Peugeot fitted Solex carbies as standard.
    You will need the ID number from the carb body to be sure you get the right kit. It's on one of the lower sides, where it bolts to the intake manifold, stamped into the carb.
    The gasket, should be available form Caravelle in Melbourne, (03 98909061) I usually tell people who aren't that familiar with Peugeots to buy form them because they are so familiar with Pugs, that they'll know what part you mean straight up and save any confusion.
    If they don't have one, Lewin at Peugeotspares in Brisbane will most probably have one(70 3355 6624)
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    For what it's worth, my 505 SR also came with a non-original Weber. The carbie model number that I have is 32 DIR 43. I had to remove it from the inlet manifold to work this out, as the model number is stamped on the lower carbie flange on the side that faces the engine.

    I think it is the same (or similar) model Weber as used on some Renaults. You should be able to get the rebuild kit from most Weber part suppliers, once you have the model number. My rebuild kit came with an exploded parts diagram, which helped a lot.

    Good luck anyway - I had a noticable reduction in problems after I cleaned mine out and replaced the gaskets and diaphragms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewD
    For what it's worth, my 505 SR also came with a non-original Weber. The carbie model number that I have is 32 DIR 43. I had to remove it from the inlet manifold to work this out, as the model number is stamped on the lower carbie flange on the side that faces the engine.

    I think it is the same (or similar) model Weber as used on some Renaults. You should be able to get the rebuild kit from most Weber part suppliers, once you have the model number. My rebuild kit came with an exploded parts diagram, which helped a lot.

    Good luck anyway - I had a noticable reduction in problems after I cleaned mine out and replaced the gaskets and diaphragms.
    Andrew,
    Yes the DIR series was used by Renault on models from the R10S in Australia, and R12, 15 16 17 and possibly some R18 models too.
    How is it performing? I would have thought the Weber from the Fuego or R20 would be more suitable seeing as the engines are similar capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HONG KONG PUGGY
    Andrew,
    Yes the DIR series was used by Renault on models from the R10S in Australia, and R12, 15 16 17 and possibly some R18 models too.
    How is it performing? I would have thought the Weber from the Fuego or R20 would be more suitable seeing as the engines are similar capacity.

    Chris
    You might be right - It's the only carburettor I've had on this car, so it's hard to compare. I'm actually pretty happy with it. Drove up to Cairns recently and got a fairly consistent 10l/ 100 km fuel consumption - not bad, considering the car was fully laden with passengers and luggage.

    Fuel economy around town is not so flash - could this be caused by a miss-match between carburettor and engine size?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewD
    You might be right - It's the only carburettor I've had on this car, so it's hard to compare. I'm actually pretty happy with it. Drove up to Cairns recently and got a fairly consistent 10l/ 100 km fuel consumption - not bad, considering the car was fully laden with passengers and luggage.

    Fuel economy around town is not so flash - could this be caused by a miss-match between carburettor and engine size?
    Town economy and 505 wagons is a sore point with most owners Andrew. We have had 2 here and the 60km/h economy isn't too great, although the lasest one we have with 4sp auto is an improvement over the 3sp.
    I would have expected a little better than 10l/100km in a wagon on the highway though, I am sure we got better than that in a 1984 wagon going to Dubbo and back with 5 and gear for about 10 days? 10L/100k equates to about 27mpg. I have a feeling we got closer to 30, may-be a little more.
    All in all, the cars are much better economy wise at highway speeds than at city stop start driving. Have you got an auto?

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    PUG_504_505,

    I've started a couple threads on this as I was in the same position. My 505 was fitted with an Weber 32DIR49A when I bought it. Consensus was that it was off a Renault 16TS. Slightly underjetted, which meant the mixture had to be richened. This pushed the consumption on the highway to around 12l/100km - not too good. I ended up replacing it with a SOLEX SEIEA off a 504 - still has a manual choke as I didn't want the hassles of an automatic choke.

    Your consumption seems pretty good though, so it wouldn't be a problem keeping it. As for a kit, find out what the carby was originally off, then it's easy to go to Repco etc and say I need a carby kit for a Renault XX. Don't tell them what it's fitted to, that just confuses the poor darlings - just make sure the carby number matched to the model in the book is the same as the one fitted. Some are very similar, the main determining factor is the top gasket.

    Sorry I can't link you to the threads, but they were both started by me early this year and one was called 'Matt's Mixture Malady'.

    Hope this helps

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    I have a Weber on mine that is again playing up. The model number on the base is 137-4 514 DAC 11. Weber doesn't have a listing for this model. When I was looking for some info on it I downloaded a heap of .pdf's on Weber carbies. Here's a couple that might be useful to you:


    http://home.exetel.com.au/nosneb/cars/32DIRpl.pdf

    http://home.exetel.com.au/nosneb/cars/32DIR.pdf

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    The only thing I'd say about Matts post is that you should find a carburettor specialist and take the car or the carbie numbers to them, they will get the right kit by the body number.


    Ralph by the lok of the photos and the numbers you gave, that isn't a Renault Carb I have seen numbers from, most are xxDIR, xxDARA fitments for Renaults that I recall. Simon may know more. I had a F**t with a Weber similar to that years ago and Ford used some on a few cars, I remembre because I had to replace that electronic idle solenoid once, but they are very expensive new and was told to hit the wreckers, Ford mainly.

    Hope this helps,
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