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    I was suprised that knowbody had picked on it. The age features a used car review on the 405.

    Peugeot 405
    The Age
    Monday July 11 2005

    Peugeot's reputation for durability came undone during the 1990s, writes DAVID MORLEY.



    A step in the wrong direction.

    Cars from companies such as Mercedes-Benz and BMW have always been sold as luxury cars - legitimately so, apart from a couple of aberrations. Just as well, too, because exchange rates and taxes have generally seen European cars carry hefty price-tags.

    The problem for some European marques is that the same financial pressures apply but the product hasn't always been able to back up the sticker price. A good example of this was the Peugeot range of the 1980s, which, despite years of ruggedly engineered vehicles that had attracted faithful buyers for decades, struggled to live up to its asking price.

    The problem was not that the cars were unworthy, rather that they were not genuinely capable of justifying the prices being asked. Suddenly, buyers were comparing Peugeot's build quality, performance and standard equipment with comparable products from Japan and were left wondering what the whole Peugeot phenomenon was about.

    Perhaps the Peugeot model most adversely affected by this realisation was the 405 of 1989.

    The 405 had big shoes to fill, replacing in Australia the solid 505, a car that still carried some of the mystique as far as the Peugeot faithful were concerned.

    Considering that the 405 was the most plasticky car to carry the lion badge, had a smaller-than-expected engine, lacked real urge and seemed to have some problems with quality, the $36,000-plus for the base-model seemed fanciful.

    Any real trace of Peugeot's styling flair was lost in the 405 too; it's not an ugly car but it is quite angular in the detail work and hasn't aged gracefully.

    We've seen plenty of 405s with faded paint. Darker blues and burgundies seem the worst offenders, and it's fair to say that paint quality generally wasn't well adapted to local conditions with our high levels of UV radiation.

    Inside, the plastics used for the trim pieces and dashboard lacked a classy feel and a 405 with plenty of kilometres on board is likely to exhibit the odd squeak and rattle. The seats were soft and unsupportive and the cloth trim neither nice to the touch nor durable.

    A 405 that has been looked after will have a presentable interior, but a neglected example can look ratty. If nothing else, it's a good gauge for how the rest of the vehicle may have been cared for.

    The 405's handling and ride was perhaps where the car lived up to the reputation of Peugeots of old. It was no sports car, but it exhibited enough grip to feel convincing. At the same time, it delivered good ride quality at the expense of plenty of body roll and pitch; just like French cars are supposed to.

    Power came from a lacklustre 1.9-litre engine that felt flat and breathless. It developed a wholly uninspiring 80 kW. Torque of 163 Nm was also nothing to rave about, and the only way to gain maximum thrust was to rev the engine hard, at which point it abandoned any thin veneer of sophistication it may have harboured up to that point.

    In Europe, where manual gearboxes are the norm, the five-speed made the most of the engine's efforts. But here in Australia, where most buyers demand automatic transmissions, the 405 was a less happy camper. The auto option provided four speed, but stifled performance and often left the engine out of its comfort zone and hunting up and down the transmission for a suitable ratio.

    Things improved in 1993 when the 405 range was treated to a 2.0-litre engine dubbed the Jazz series. It provided more oomph where it was needed and it also fixed the original 405's tendency to burn oil.

    Some cars are affected more seriously than others, but any pre-Jazz 405 demands an oil consumption check before handing over the money.

    Along with the petrol-engine variants in both base-model and S forms, the 405 was also offered as a station wagon and as a sporty sedan with a twin-overhead camshaft engine and an Mi16 badge. This is the pick of the crop, with superior performance and handling, alloy wheels and body kit.

    Watch out for cars that have covered moonshot distances because they can become very loose and rattly as the kilometres mount up.

    You're much better off paying the extra and shopping for a Jazz-engine example because it was only then that the 405 starting behaving like a Peugeot.

    What to pay


    Early examples can be found in dealers' yards for around $6000 and maybe even a fraction less. Privately you'll de even better. Jazz-engine cars start at about $9000 or $10,000 for, say, a 1994 model, but be prepared for it to have covered plenty of kilometres - and then some.

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    A Volvo 850 is the best bet, thanks to its durability and safety. A Saab 9000 is tempting if you can budget for a replacement automatic transmission - you'll probably be needing one.
    http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/ar...f=3&bg=11&pp=3
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    That one was picked up a couple of weeks back now....see this thread

    405 review in The Age


    Cheers

    Ben
    1989 Peugeot 405 Mi16
    1990 Peugeot 505 GTD Turbo Wagon
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    yeh...

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