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    well i found myself today a couple of 403 utes

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    just have to wait to see what the fella wants to do with them but they oculd be in my hands very shortly

    one is pretty rusty as expected from a pug sitting in the open and the other is still an unknown quantity untill the sill panel come off and it gets pulled out of where it is

    they will both have a fair amount of rust in them as this is what pugs do but at least it's a start on my long term project

    there were a couple of 404's out there as well and 504's (various models) and also a couple of 403 sedans

    not a bad find for a saturday anyway

    now to soften up the missus
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    What years are the 404s?

    I guess you don't want these cars for which you have such little regard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell
    What years are the 404s?

    I guess you don't want these cars for which you have such little regard?

    some C3 box ones some BA7 box ones

    but yeah i didn't take a lot of notice as they had their normal rust plus, and a rusty 404 means nothing at all to me especially when i was on my way to looking at a better pug model
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    Well done Pugrambo!

    Must say the concept of a 203 or 403 ute had me enthralled for years but I didn't find one. Then I eventually settled for the 404 African ute and a 403 sedan (having three girls meant I needed more seats than a ute).

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    Quote Originally Posted by friday403
    Well done Pugrambo!

    Must say the concept of a 203 or 403 ute had me enthralled for years but I didn't find one. Then I eventually settled for the 404 African ute and a 403 sedan (having three girls meant I needed more seats than a ute).

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    won't be my first 403 ute but it will be a long term project

    we have the 604 to carry the family around in and the 306 for fun when i do drive it or get time to get it out of the shed (still sitting there with a dead battery)

    they are both in need of much work and one less so than the other

    i will get one up and going although not quite in standard form and the other i still don't know what i will do with it

    i'd hate to see either of them scrapped so i'd say the other one will gather dust untill i decide what to do with it, this is of course if the current owner wants to let them go

    he does want to see them go to a good home so here's hoping

    he was going to get one up and going again to use on the farm but he still has to put his fathers 403 back on the road again so the ute will end up as a never never job

    if you do a search back through a couple of year on here you may find my thread on thoughts on what i have planned for a 403 ute
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo

    If you do a search back through a couple of year on here you may find my thread on thoughts on what i have planned for a 403 ute
    Well I did the search but I must say I would personally prefer to see an engine/drive train combination in the rear wheel drive mould (504/505) - makes me old fashioned I guess. Do you expect your planned conversion to affect the resale value?

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    Quote Originally Posted by friday403
    Well I did the search but I must say I would personally prefer to see an engine/drive train combination in the rear wheel drive mould (504/505) - makes me old fashioned I guess. Do you expect your planned conversion to affect the resale value?

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    friday403.
    Resale value on early Peugeots? Do any true enthusiasts of 203-403-404's ever consider this? What a cold fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest
    friday403.
    Resale value on early Peugeots? Do any true enthusiasts of 203-403-404's ever consider this? What a cold fish.
    Only when you have to sell the car to pay for the prostrate operation..... 203-403-404 owners are ageing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by friday403
    Only when you have to sell the car to pay for the prostrate operation..... 203-403-404 owners are ageing!

    friday403
    The "prostrate" operation? I've been practising this for when Pope Benny 16 visits Aus.

    The prostate op ? I'll let Johnny Howard shout me that.

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    i don't intend on selling the ute anytime soon so whatever it gets whenever i do sell it will outweigh the cost of building and getting the use out of it throughout the time i have it

    i may even just have a nice 8V engine in it but it will definitely have a modern engine plant in it

    like i say it will be a long term project
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    2.2 Douvrin STi converted to run on gas would be good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    like i say it will be a long term project
    How to you go for leg room? Does a 403 need the extra-cab treatment or is there enough space for a reasonable set of legs to fit?

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    no gas wanted just petrol or maybe diesel but petrol is my prefered accelerant to propell a motor vehicle of this size

    leg room is tight and i will be looking at that very hard hopefully without modifying the cab

    i may even just modify the firewall a little to put the pedals further away and maybe shortening the steering column
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest
    friday403.
    Resale value on early Peugeots? Do any true enthusiasts of 203-403-404's ever consider this? What a cold fish.
    True, people don't consider reale values when doing up an early Peugeot, but they often do end up being sold. A contentious statement - Original cars are more saleable and so generally bring higher prices than modified ones. Peugeot enthusiasts have always been modifiers, right from the early days. From the relatively mild to the fitting of rotaries to 203's. In recent times, some people have taken up original restoring of 203/403's. A different approach. The car should look and drive as it did when it left the showroom. Actually more difficult and more expensive to do. You have to get the right materials for everything.Some make the mistake of over-restoring, making them better than original. Original cars are less practical and useable in modern traffic. I'm a restorer and keep the 203 as I bought it, and I'm going to some trouble to do things like put the blinker switch back where it should be on top of the steering column. Recently I've noticed prices for original 203's have increased. There is no problem selling a sound one for a good price. Even a one owner that had been in a paddock for a decade and had no floor went for over $1000, an original early model with an older restoration went for ten times that. On the other hand, sell a modified and you have to find a buyer who likes your engineering approach. Just my (minority) opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Hall
    .......... On the other hand, sell a modified and you have to find a buyer who likes your engineering approach. Just my (minority) opinion.

    Russell,

    I am also in the minority it would appear. When I had the 203C I kept it close to original (motor, brakes) but changed only those things that bugged me (preferred the floor shift, sports steering wheel, one battery and 15" rims).

    My current 403 project will have the same treatment... upgrade to the things I prefer and leave the rest alone.

    friday403

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    Russell

    what colour is your 203 ?
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    It's grey - I suppose it would be called machinery grey today.

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