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    Just wondering if anyone has done any engine swaps...

    i've be told that the 406 v6 will just fit into the 306 engine bay...

    If this is the case how much work and what type of work would be involved?

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    Lots! those V6's are a tight fit even in the larger cars.

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    would be very interesting to drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRTDVL
    Just wondering if anyone has done any engine swaps...

    i've be told that the 406 v6 will just fit into the 306 engine bay...

    If this is the case how much work and what type of work would be involved?

    Check out the Eccose web site, if you can find a spare 406V6 motor around it would be great to see a transplant in a 306 in australasia. Doubt you'll have much change from 25K though.

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    In NZ even...

    I'm in Auckland, NZ

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    from the ecosse website:

    V6 Conversion
    This is the daddy engine of the Peugeot range. Due to its massive size and complex set up there are few models this engine be shoe horned into. The 306, 405 and 406 are the only contenders for this fabulous lump in the engine bay

    From £5,000.00+vat (£5,875.00)

    now £5,000 is just under $12,000 AUD

    and im not sure if thats inclusive of the engine cost.....

    to be 100% honest, at that price, i dont think its worth it.....

    even thought it would be kinda interesting....

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    hmm, what do the 306 autocross guys run in europe? i now that they are 4x4... are they turbo too?

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    For that sort of money you could make a fantastic NA 16Valve or even a Turbo 16Valve - and the car would still handle well

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    i'm pipe dreaming here... but ya would still like to know as much as i could... would love a grp n car as a daily driver and a very very tweeked car as a weekend warrior

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    If you're really serious whack a turbo on it as it will
    cost less
    weigh less
    much easier to do
    easier to service

    The extra weight of the V6 over the front axle won't help handling.

    I've driven both 406 2.0 and 406 SV and you can definately feel the extra weight in the nose.

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    I don't know about the pug V6s anyway. It may just be the way the 406s are geared, but it doesn't seem like an overly special engine.
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    the only problem is i don't like the peekiness of the turbo engines... i'd rather have a super charger..

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    Turbo engines are not all peaky, only the ones with turbos too large for their capacity. As long as you are sensible with turbo choice you can good instant response.

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    thats true...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRTDVL
    hmm, what do the 306 autocross guys run in europe? i now that they are 4x4... are they turbo too?
    yah i read somewhere they run turboed cosworth (?) engines.

    one well known autocross 306 is a maxi kitted 4wd turbo driven by a will gollop.
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    the ecosse site is a litte wrong... check this out

    (i know it's been posted here but anyway)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRTDVL
    In NZ even...

    I'm in Auckland, NZ
    yeah you guys are in australasia!!!
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    how much would it cost approx to turbo the a 98 306 XSi???

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    If you shop smart Anthony itll be cheaper than youd think for a low boost setup.

    2nd hand turbo-T28 -$700-900
    Evo Cooler-$400-500
    IC Piping $200-300
    Custom Exhaust manifold will be the biggest cost
    Some form of Piggyback and fuel pump would also be recommended.

    I reckon with 2nd hand well sourced and well thought out you can do it for maybe a tad over $3K

    Ants if u are considering it i can get u in contact with my friend who has turboed many hondas that make great power using simple setups. Hes a gun at installing tuning and designing turbo setups for hondas and other similar cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCPUG
    If you shop smart Anthony itll be cheaper than youd think for a low boost setup.

    2nd hand turbo-T28 -$700-900
    Evo Cooler-$400-500
    IC Piping $200-300
    Custom Exhaust manifold will be the biggest cost
    Some form of Piggyback and fuel pump would also be recommended.

    I reckon with 2nd hand well sourced and well thought out you can do it for maybe a tad over $3K

    Ants if u are considering it i can get u in contact with my friend who has turboed many hondas that make great power using simple setups. Hes a gun at installing tuning and designing turbo setups for hondas and other similar cars.
    kinda interested Alex.....any idea what kind of power figures id be lookin at?

    cheers

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    personally id also be looking at a simple engine swap of roughly the same size, but a much more athletic engine

    but do keep in mind that its not just your engine bay that might need work, you would have to think about things like tyres, brakes, suspension etc

    its an interesting alley to be walking down tho, i know mitsubishi fanatics love swapping engines around, i was even looking at doing it to my lancer at one stage

    one things for sure, once you finished it, that car would move
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    how does the 206 gti 180 engine rack up in comparission?

    haven't looked yet, a bit busy at work.. are then any sites that give you tech info on all the pug engines? i'm meaning hp, Nm torque, weight, displacment, etc...

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    Heath,

    There is a company in germany who can twin turbo the V6, I always tell the misses thats my next project just to stir the pot. What motor do you have now??

    Cheers Nick
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    just the basic 94 S16 model one (not sure what gen it is i.e. n3 n5 etc..) just getting back into my pugs...

    I tried to get an pod filter for it, but damm that engine back it tight... think i might make my own custom one up and shift the batt to the boot... would love to move the abs unit too... closer to the firewall

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    well if you want to see a 406 v6 in a car come over and I'll give you a guided tour. I should also be able to work out if yours is a 8v or 16v and N3 or N5.


    Cheers Nick
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