Mi16 on ebay

[rick_b]

I've made a bid on this car sight unseen from the description given, provided there is not too much else wrong with it it seems like a good buy. I am currently employed in the Army fixing Black Hawks in East Timor and am unable to get to Sydney until late May. My problem is, do I: a. Have the car repaired to a drivable state so I can drive it back to Townsville or, b. Have the car transported so that I can complete the work myself.
I am reluctant to bid too high as costs can quickly mount. Best case a car with 184000 Kms and no rego would be hard pressed to fetch $6000. If any one lives close by and could take a look at it for me from an unbiased veiwpoint it would be much appreciated. Does anyone know of a car carrier that will cart a non running car from Sydney to Townsville at a reasonable cost?

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[rick_b]

No one close by?

[gibgib]

I attempted to get there today to have a look but my call wasn't returned.
I have planned a look Mon or Tues depending on the seller's availablility.

[rick_b]

Cheers I'll look forward to hearing an un-biased opinion. The seller also hasn't answered many questions raised by email It would definitely be a lot easier to go out and buy a good low milage car. I've heard all the hype about series 2 405's being better than series 1's I don't beleive that to be true of the Mi16's. Any one else have veiws on this?

[Pug_405_Mi16]

Series 2 405's seem to have a better build quality all over!
But the Series 1 1.9litre engine goes harder then the Series 2 2.0, this has also got to do with the fact that the series 1 weighs around 100kg less then a series 2

I own a series 1 and LOVE it ! looked at a series 2 they dont seem to have the same feeling that the series 2 has

Ben

[Alan S]

As someone who has no choice but to buy cars from a distance & have done so several times, my advice to anyone trying to deal with a vendor who doesn't answer questions, takes ages to answer them or is vague when he does;
one word - RUN disappro disappro eek!
Either they want to sell or they don't. This one sounds like he is probably a backyarder who picked it up cheap and is testing the water to see what he may get for it or someone who is as slack with answering messages as he was in servicing his car; hence the blown uo motor.
Either way, I'd be outta there in a flash.

Alan S

[Andreas]

or maybe you're just saying that so that you have less competition bidding against you wink

Andreas

[gibgib]

Looking at it tonight @ 7PM.
He has some big lights apparently

If anyone wants to have a look as well send an email to me.
We don't want a heap of tyre kickers though do we...

[gibgib]

Also if you want me to check out certain detail let me know on here

[rick_b]

Excellent gibgib approve
could you please check for evidence of any accident damage (poor panel fit),condition of; engine mounts, clutch feel,type and tread of tyres, evidence of oil leaks,power steering leaks, brake rotor condition, windscreen and just how bad is the faded interior with sagged roof lining. Could you also check for oily coolant & milky oil.

cheers thanks again Rick

[rick_b]

Forgot gibgib could you also check rego and service history details. wink

Thanks again

[Andreas]

Apparently it has 14" wheels, though they dont look like 14" mi16 wheels, more like the series 2 15" wheels.
The tyres are 205 series instead of 195.
184,000 km, gearbox is apparently good.
Rego expired last thursday.

It was pretty easy getting my questions answered, is he replying to your emails at all or just not answering your questions?

Andreas

[rick_b]

2 e-mails 1 reply 1/2 questions answered.

[gibgib]

Ok checked out the beast.

Looked pretty good as far as bodywork is concerned, panels are all very straight (wish ours were) & paint would polish up nice.

The seats were faded evenly so it was hard to answer that question. Looking in the rear pockets of the front seat shows how much. The top of the seats on the rear deck was noticebly faded.
The hood lining is sagging pretty well all over & makes it look bad inside.

Clutch feels good & the gears are in the right spot ie. R is opp 5th.

The car has been sitting under a car cover for 6 months.

The wheel ARE 15" not 13". The tyres are 205, have plenty of tread but the brand??? (was crappy wink )

Under the bonnet the battery is missing, 3 loose looms which he said are from the alarm module, no oil showing on the dip stick but the car was on a lean to the right.

Plenty of meat on the rotors & pads (on the right handside, couldn't get to the left)
Ar what else.....

Umm... other than that it is very straight in the body work department.

A "Fellow Frogger" turned up as we were about to leave as well

[rick_b]

The 15" rims are a plus auction currently at $3500. Lets do some sums car $3500 repairs allow $2000 + towing $100 + Rego $700 + interior repairs $300? sub total $6600. The fact that cheap tyres are on the car and oil level is low says to me he has scrimped on maintanence. Other possible costs are brake cylinder leaks and power steering leaks becouse the car has been sitting so long, worst case could run to another $2000. eek! Then there's the stuff around value what price? black_ey So in reality its propably going for just under market value. I'll have to sleep on this one. Thanks again for taking a look gibgib.
Regards Rick

[Alan S]

Andreas:
or maybe you're just saying that so that you have less competition bidding against you wink

Andreas

You've got to be joking!!!!!
If you knew what my family have bought in froggys in the past couple of months and for what price you would understand that I wouldn't waste time on a plane fare for a pile of crap like this.
Put in a bid for about a hundred bucks - by comparison, if he accepts, I'll "think" about flying down to collect. On second thoughts, no withdraw the offer.
Have fun bidding - I'm out; then again, I was never in.
blush blush blush blush

Alan S

[PeterT]

I had a look tonight. I make it:
$3500 for car
$2000 for engine repairs
$300 for a new master cylinder
$1200 for a new hood lining
$600 for rego

that's $7600, a bit too close to a good 2nd item from a dealer.

[Andreas]

Alan S:
You've got to be joking!!!!!

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Actually I was

As a few of you have already mentioned, add all of the other costs and it adds up pretty quickly and you're near the market value.
It's gone past my limit.

Andreas

<small>[ 06 May 2002, 11:52 PM: Message edited by: Andreas ]</small>

[Cal]

You can do a lot to an MI16 engine for $2000. If you spend $1200 on a hood lining you are on crack. I took mine out myself and got a trimmer to do it and it cost $130. Show me where you can get a good 2nd hand one from a dealer for $7600. How would you be sure you have bought the right car from a dealer anyway?

[Alan S]

THESE ARE NOT FROM A DEALER, BUT NEITHER'S THE ONE ON E-BAY & YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE THESE & HEAR THEM RUNNING. (Sorry about caps, accidentally hit wrong button) clown

Peugeot 405 MI16 sedan, all options, air, ABS, Koni's, etc, log books, reg 11/2002, quick sale, $7500 XAJ-106 WINDSOR 02-4577 3685 or 02-45773726 ah

PEUGOT Mi16 95, man, met
Sorento Green, black lthr,
factory s/roof, rear spoiler,
alloy whls, full log, 1 owner,
144,000km, excel cond,
reg to 6/02. ACX45W.
$9,950ono. 0404 873 086


NSW: May 02, 2002

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PEUGEOT MI16 89 5 spd, air,
steer, alloys, factory flare kit,
tint, service hist. Any Test.
$6950 Ph 9414 1087


Perth: May 06, 2002

OK so some of these are a long way from home, but it shows they are there; that search took about 3 minutes to achieve.
The last time I saw e-bay the price was around $3650
At a general Auction, say damaged car auction I'd bet it wouldn't break 2 grand particularly with the junky tyres and the empty sump.
The person who could best buy this and come out in front is someone who had a nice car that got bent and claimed the wreck from the Insurance, otherwise you're buying a pig in a poke. Or should that be a "Pug in a poke?" :p

Alan S

[rick_b]

Concur on hood lining coment! It looks like I'll be winning this auction , thought long and hard. Have been looking for a Mi16 at least with this one it gives some scope to spend some cash on it without losing too much if sold further down the track. wink Most are likly to need some work at this age and a realy good one costs $12000-15000. The 15" rims add a few hundred to the value in my mind. Being a mechanic it may cost me less than most to rectify any other faults. I also have a mate that does trimming. I'm certain there are worse cars out there going for more. Definitly wasn't going much higher!

[gibgib]

Interesting finish to the Auction!
$4005

I wonder how it would have gone if it had not have been mentioned on here

[Andreas]

$4005!!!

Andreas

[edit]you beat me to it gibgib.
i dont think it'd have gotten almost 800 hits had it not been mentioned here.

<small>[ 07 May 2002, 11:17 AM: Message edited by: Andreas ]</small>

[rick_b]

Missed out too rich for me!(on this car) Still looking for a Mi16 . There must be more out there for sale I am willing to pay up to 13000 for a mint condition low km car.

[Alan S]

Mate,

The god's were smiling on you for sure. Might pay to ring around and get a quote to get a car shipped from Sydney to Townsville before you let your head go on anything like that again.
My guess is at least $1000 unless you do it by rail in which case, how do you get it to & from the railway?

Alan S