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    Hi all

    The Cr*p paintjob on the roof of my 505 has finally annoyed me enough to do something about it.
    Can anyone reccomend a good Auto painter in Melbourne to respray the roof? and how much does the Sunroof complicate things?

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    Jason,

    Try "Rugolo Motor Body Works" at 227 Mt Alexander Rd Ascot Vale, they are an authorised Peugeot body shop and they do good work.

    Ph No:9376-1655

    and about the sunroof, it shouldn't be an issue.

    Marco (406svman)

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    "Ballpark" figure of around $5000 just for a roof respray!
    what the?
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    What the?

    $5000 for the roof?

    Hope I never need to get paint work done... frown
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    i think you may have added one too many 0's, did you mean $500?
    for $5000 i'd be wanting an engine out, respray with change.

    Andreas

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    Well, thats what i would have thought!

    I really dont see $5000 in it, and personally, i reckon the guy at Rugolo was talking out of his rear end.
    Maybe he thought i meant the whole car??? But i did make my self very clear...

    Still, doing it myself is looking more tempting
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    Pug505exec:
    "Ballpark" figure of around $5000 just for a roof respray!
    what the?
    Hmm, I'll do it for $4500, is it a deal?!
    I am a Toyota Imposter... (2)

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    Jason,

    (1) The roof & the bonnet r the most difficult areas to paint on the car.
    (2) Only way the sunroof complicates things is if it has to come off (Come off it must for worthwhile job)Windscreen has to come off as well.
    (3) Depends on the color of your car and the materials used (I asume it only acylic laquer & a solid color)
    (4) If the paint has crazed it will cost a lot more If it is crazed & cracked and the sunroof has to come off it's more again hope you get my drift.
    In another words if it has crazed it has to be taken to bare metal for the paint job to last.

    If your car is a solid color with just say fading paint but sound condition where u could scuff it and paint and you simply want the job masked around the sunroof& windscreen with acylic laquer materials matched as close as humanly possible to other areas it should cost about $400-600 dollars.

    Some of those painters r so busy with accident repairs (Insurance jobs)That they simply speak some crap to get rid of u.

    For instance i bought a brand new bonnet from mitsubishi and it came in epoxy undercoat (No prep at all needed after i prepped it the auto painter wanted $370 for a 2 hour job.

    Murat

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    Oh yeah i forgot to mention something regarding the $5000
    That amount of money would get u a quality full respray in 2 pack.
    I still find it hard to beleive that someone quoted u that amount of money to shoot the roof
    Come on we know u asked the guy for a full cameleon pearl paint job on the roof
    Even then at around $900 eek! litre for ppg cameleon pearl it would come out a lot cheaper than $5000 :p eek!

    Murat

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    You'll find you can get the job done satisfactorilly for far less than $5000 Jason. In fact a $5000 roof job will probably make the rest of the car look so tatty that you decide you want to do it all!

    Ring RACV and ask them for some recommendations near where you live.

    Its also worth thinking about doing the preparatory work yourself. Surface preparation takes time, but it doesn't take a huge amount of skill to get the basic work done.

    Cheers

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    Sorry but a paint job is only as good as the foundation and prep work underneath.
    Prep work is the hardest & most time consuming part in a quality & durable paint job.

    Murat

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    The paint is not THAT bad.
    It's not cracked, and for the most part is still smooth. The very top layer of clear lacquer has gone chalky, and the previous owner of the car never had anyhting done about it. When i got the car, i was able to sand, cut and polish most of the chalky stuff off, but it has maeant that the different sectoin have faded differently, and some pacthes have become discolored.
    I'm prepared to to basic prep first, imcluding the removal of the sunroof, so i'll ring around and see who does what...
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    $5000 sounds like a quote for the whole car to be resprayed, are you sure they didn't misunderstand?

    a $5000 quote for a decent full respray eg all seals/trim taken off, engine out etc is not unusual.
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    Well, i can only assume thats what they thought... He did sound pretty busy
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    My brother got his BMW 5 series done by a top panel shop, including rust out of the bottom of the front doors, metallic, for $5k...and it had a sunroof (steel tilt'n'slide Webasto).

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    How easy/difficult would it be for me to remove the sunroof panel?
    I have to take it out eventually, and replace the seal anyway, as it leaks water sometimes.
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    sunroofs are pretty easy to remove
    slide it backe and remove the two plastic lifts at the front and remove the interior panels on the sunroof and remove the eight bolts
    hold the panel and slide the rest of the roof back and then slide the panel out through the top
    i have done this many times on 604's with ease
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    $5,000! what the %@#*,
    they are renovating, maybe he just didn't want the job but anyway try "Victoria Body Works" at
    380 Victoria St, North Melbourne Ph No:9328-1573
    just up the road from City Peugeot, They to work on lots of Peugeots (if my recommendations are worth anything)

    marco (406svman)

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    pugrambo,
    Are you sure that the 505 sunroof removes the same way as the 604? Anyone got any more detailed advice on how to do it?
    Thanks for trying
    ...And thanks everone for your replies
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    Jason,

    I've been painting cars since JC played fullback for Jerusalem Most painters are quite happy to let you do the donkey work & just give them the job of the final finish.
    Prices for painting these days are often due to the fiddly nature of getting rid of all the bells & whisles (like sunroofs and window surrounds) before they start & of course you get some who use a 15 year old to do the majority of the prep work but then want to charge his time out at tradesmans rates.
    Do the rounds, try to have a look at some of his work & base your decision on the quality of the finished product not the price. The dearest isn't always the best & as someone said, the end result will depend on how well the job is prepared; a hard to see sharp edge on a prepared surface stands out like a neon sign when it's finished.
    Here's a site that gives you some clues and might be worth a read before you make any big decisions.

    <a href="http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqpnt.htm" target="_blank">http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqpnt.htm</a>

    This guys a seppo & a bit big on krautwagons, but nobody's perfect

    Hope it helps.

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    Alan S:
    Jason,

    This guys a seppo & a bit big on krautwagons, but nobody's perfect

    Alan S
    Love it

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    Just for my two cents worth,

    I paid $2k NZ for a full bare metal respray on my R17 (in members gallery). There was no major panel work involved (the panelbeater did that) and the painter stripped the car right back to bare metal, removed windscreens front and rear for me. I made sure it had no side trims, interior to speak of, but they did the rest. Oh, and I didn't paint the engine bay at the time- but they did do the bonnet etc too.

    The finish on mine is excellent, so the $5k must mean the guy you asked didn't want the job at all. This guy here was able to show me photos of cars he had done- actually he was an Ozzie too! Of XA falcons and the like that he himself had restored.

    Point is try and find someone on the same wavelength as you- for what you are trying to achieve- i.e money and result, and sound them out, they are out there.

    Good luck.

    Cheers Ben

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